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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (18000)6/23/1998 11:20:00 PM
From: Don Martini  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Hi, Bob! Do you have a concordance, Young's or Strongs? Please consult it to see that nephesh, [about 700 times in the Hebrew text] translated soul, is employed repeatedly for animals. Open a lexicon and note the connection of nephesh with breath or breathing. It means a "breather," "breathing creature". The confusion is produced by the translators: NIV spins nephesh 154 different ways, the KJV 33, the NWT 1.

Our family business is chemistry. I lost US Steel when a worker used odorless base oil (OBO) for odorless mineral spirits (OMS)in a parting agent. It took constant vigilance to prevent mixups because someone was sloppy or careless, and used TSP for TKPP or STPP, or picked the wrong alcohol. The policy was zero errors.

This matter is far more important, so let me ask what your policy is about translational error, does it concern you? Do you have a research library to check things out for yourself? Not religious interpretations, but Thayers, Vines, Strongs, Youngs, Douglas, Crudens, Smiths, geographies and several good translations. Does it matter whether Jesus went to hades or gehenna? Do you use a sectarian translation which dismisses inspired text in favor of what the committee thought God should have said? NIV? "The heart of the righteous studieth to answer." Prov. 15:28

KJV translates 3 Greek words as Hell: hades, gehenna, tartarus.
KJV makes 1 Hebrew word, Sheol, into 3 English words: hell, grave and pit.

Here's it does to Nephesh: any, appetite, beast, body, breath, creature, dead body, desire, ghost, heart, life, lust, man, mind, one, own, person, pleasure, self, soul, thing, will, fish, hearth, mortal, will, would have it, anyone, deadly, etc. Sloppy and careless; how do you think God felt about it?.

RUACH is a separate Hebrew term, the Greek equivalent is PNEUMA, as in pneumatic. Both mean breath, wind, breeze, force, etc. Soul is not spirit. "The spirit [ruach] returns to God who gave it" Ecc 12:7

The psuche/nephesh is never immortal, undying, deathless.
Immortality is to be gained: 1 Cor 15:53.
Souls DIE! Ezek 18: 4, 20
Youngs defines both nephesh and psuche as "Animal Soul"
Men and animals have the same breath; ruach. Ecc 3:19
It says when God takes our breath we die. Ps 104:29
Adam became a living soul, he didn't get a soul. Gen 2:7

Adam, created in Jehovah's image, was told death is wages of sin, not a transfer. The serpent said: "Ye shall not surely die," now says "You don't die, you migrate!" Our capacities to Love and have Faith, our Intelligence, our sense of Justice, Our Dominion over the earth & animals are in the image of God. Genesis 1:28. The idea that Jehovah gave Adam an "eternal spirit" is a private one, Bob. May His spirit lead you.