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To: ANALYST10 who wrote (15610)	6/24/1998 6:15:00 PM
From: Mongo2116	Respond to of 50264

To: jhild (3430 ) From: macker Wednesday, Jun 24 1998 5:45PM ET Reply # of 3445 jhild, ask your questions to me, this will be my last few days on si before i move as many as i can off of here due to double standards. so ask away, ill go one for one with you, the it from italy, and little spark plug, and thirdleft, then you will have to answer my questions, you ask first then i will answer, then my turn. you got the guts for this? then bring it on if you think you are man enough, oops i meant male enough, i know about you and shell. macker BRING IT ON, AND GET ALL YOUR FRIENDS FROM DGIV AND EVERY OTHER THREAD AS WELL, INCLUDING A10. SOMEONE PLEASE CUT AND PASTE THIS TO DGIV AND INFE THREADS FOR ME AS WELL. BRING EM ALL IN.

To: ANALYST10 who wrote (15610)	6/24/1998 6:44:00 PM
From: macker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50264

awesome post, i learned something here and appreciate the lesson, this is sincere, you bring up mm dynamics which a lot of people need to realize is not so cut and dried, there are rules but not all of them are reinforced. especially, "what makes a mm have to cover his short position", most people dont realize that short of announcing a dividend or going to nasdaq that the mm's dont have to cover at anytime, everyone thinks that the end of the month they have to close their books or that a name change works, this is not true. also, if an mm is short a stock, he can let it sit with another mm and drop off the bid and ask or event the lineup at anytime, he can resume his position at a later date. the mm's will help cover each other even thought there is some "no honor anong thieves", but for the most part they help each other. people need to realize that the total volume number like you pointed out can be very deceiving. the "real" volume is more like 1/2 of the number listed due to double prints and so forth like you said, and there is no way to determine, house transfers and mm exchanges, which also doesnt include after and before bell trading. there were a couple 700,000 share blocks go through on sgnc before the bell a week ago that will never show up on the days volume, so therefore the positioning takes place and no volume is recorded. macker

To: ANALYST10 who wrote (15610)	6/24/1998 7:15:00 PM
From: sandstuff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50264

Analyst10, you sure do know a lot about market makers. Why doesn't that surprise me? Thanks for the education. sandstuff

To: ANALYST10 who wrote (15610)	6/24/1998 9:18:00 PM
From: Richard B. Haenisch	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 50264

ANALYST 10, In regards to your message - Thank you for your thorough explanation of the intricate workings of "our beloved" market makers. I am glad to see, for the sake of the less educated investors out there, that ANALYST 10 is well versed in the world of market making. (Sure comes in handy, when you are looking to manipulate a stock). I usually do not engage in these "PISSING" contests, but since you are so eloquently trying to DISCREDIT me to the general thread, I shall be obliged to respond to your assertions...ONCE!!! I have been trading for nine years now - and my relationships with MM and my experience in daily trading activities in stocks go beyond COUNTING PRINTS which have gone off on the bid or ask - BELIEVE YOU ME! AND THEY GO BEYOND READING THE DOW JONES, REUTERS AND/OR BLOOMBERG WIRE SERVICES! Please do not try to insult my intelligence ! THE NUMBERS PROVIDED TO THE PEOPLE ON THIS THREAD ARE WITHIN A FEW TRADES (BUY OR SELL) ACCURATE (SOME LATE PRINTS/TRADES OR OUT OF SEQUENCE NOT WITHSTANDING). AND ARE MOST CERTAINLY AN EXTREMELY VALUABLE INDICATOR TO THE GENERAL POPULACE ABOUT WHAT IS "REALLY" GOING ON A DAY BY DAY BASIS WITH DGIV AND THE MM STOCK MANIPULATION. Your attempt to discredit my "DAILY TALLIES" prove to me how detrimental they are to YOUR cause - WHICH IS TO UNDERMINE DGIV AND ITS "INEVITABLE" PROGRESS! I WILL HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO USE THEM AS A GUIDELINE AND DRAW THEIR "OWN" CONCLUSIONS FROM THEM!!!!!! I PROMISE YOU - THAT I WILL CONTINUE TO PRINT THEM, ANALYST 10!!! RICO P.S. Finally - the one thing I agree on with you, however, is the "short covering" we saw today - which was rather obvious.