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To: Dale J. who wrote (58717)	6/24/1998 11:45:00 PM
From: Raiders	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Some Thoughts on Intel Intel as usual baffles investors . One day it is heading to $100 other day it is heading towards $50. I have been watching Intel for about 10 years now. I will bring 1995 and 1996 into the picture. Everytime this stock splits the stock goes into a kind of a slumber where it will trade between a price range and do nothing. Right now the price range is $65 - $80. Semi's are still in the dump. But Internet stocks with high valuations are going nuts. Does this remind someone of June 1996? where IOM,PRST, AMTX,ANCR and others were being taken higher and higher. Then the crash happened from the blue. I see that the same effect is going to happen. This will take tech stocks down. Same thing happened in 1995. So coming back to Intel I think Kurlack is right Intel is right now in some short term trouble but eventually INtel is Intel it will go and do another split and all the longs will be happy. But right now Buyers beware,. PS: I own Intel but i have held it for long time, that these short term gyrations of $20 -$30 points don't bother me. Please do not calling me names and all that nonsense this is just my opinion. Like Clint Eastwood says: "Opinions are like $$$$ everybody has one of them" Good Luck to All Raiders

To: Dale J. who wrote (58717)	6/24/1998 11:53:00 PM
From: Steve Porter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Dale, Well, Steve that's why I prefaced my statement with "It's my understanding...". Anytime you see a phrase prefaced with "It's my understanding..." it's a sure indication that the author doesn't know what they are talking about. I figured, but I just had to razz you ;-) Seriously, though. 12Megs! I think not. Well, sure if you just want to boot it up and then shut it back down. And 36 megs we both agree that is a weird number. So you are looking at 48megs, well with the price of memory you may just as well opt for 64megs. Well it's all kinda moot right now. Prices for 128MB SDRAMs are right in line with the pricing for 64's and 32's (i.e. there is no price premium for the big pieces now so I would go straight to 128, I mean hell it's only another $100CDN to go from 64 to 128) Here's a few questions for you though. What would you recommend to your company if they asked you to purchase new PC's for the Division, Dept etc. Say they want Lotus Notes, MS Exchange, MS Office etc. You would recommend NT right? Not because they need NT, but because it will be easier for you to administer. Well Dale, I would recommend NT, but saying because it is easier to administer is too general a statement and if you don't mind I will clarify what I mean below (otherwise just skip it <G>) With Windows NT (which is the standard operating system for the PCs under my control) you can run what is know at NT Domain security. This has many advantages over the one-size fits all security method. If you would like more information on what Domain Security model is all about private message me and I will explain (unless lots of you folks wanna know in which case I'll just post it here). In addition to Domain Security, I have several extra advantages and tricks I can leverage to make my job easier. Security is the biggest one. While most people don't think the average user needs security, there are built in benefits. e.g. by setting the correct permissions and user rights, users can't delete each others' print jobs. Security isn't just about snooping into files, it's about preventing users from fcking up their systems by deleting carelessly. Add to the security the stability of NT. It never crashes unless there is a hardware or driver problem. Either of those occur with 95 as well. I haven't had to reboot my NT Server at the office (except for voluntary reboots to remove/add hardware/software) for 6 months! (I have only rebooted about 6 times in that period). This makes life very easy on the sys admin. Users just leave their systems on and log out. They are ALWAYS working and ready to go. Also NT is scalable. All people can use it. From the one who do word processing to those who need multi-processor systems for nasty calculations/rendering, etc. This makes it easier to train your personelle (personal.. I can never remember that one ;-) ). It's similarity to 95 in terms of UI means everyone knows it. Add to all of this that NT runs about 10% faster than 95 on a similar machine (anything over a 486 33), has superior file systems for increased performance, better managability, better caching algorythms and a more robust memory subsystem and you have one hell of a desktop OS (I don't see why ANYONE needs 95, other than those who wanna play those old computer games ;-) ). And you are not going to recommend the Sub 1000 PC's Right?* Well that all depends on what I can get in the Sub 1000 PCs. In Canada there is no such thing as a sub 1K PC. I would likely recommend a system that I could buy in the states for sub $1K though. For an MS-OFFICE workstation running NT and e-mail etal I would recommend the following for your average secretary: Penitum 233/AMD/Cyrix (all the same speed) (I have had no problems with any of them under NT) 64Megs (soon to be moved to 128Megs) Anything from a 2gig and up harddrive. Matrox Millenium II (they are still _THE_ Windows NT video adapter) and a monitor to the liking of the individual. Now you may want to throw in a CDROM and Soundcard, although most secretaries who transcribe documents (i.e. take dictation) don't need them. Steve

To: Dale J. who wrote (58717)	6/24/1998 11:59:00 PM
From: rudedog	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Dale - the workstation version of NT4 will actually boot in 8 megs. NT is a virtual memory model - only the memory manager and a few kernel pieces know or care how much physical memory you have. Performance suffers if the swap rate goes up - with a typical IDE drive, a page fault rate of 100 page / sec will slow things to a crawl. It is pretty simple to see how much memory one needs to support a normal environment - just watch page faults and add memory until you get down to an average of 30-40 pages / sec. NT is more stable and faster than Win9X. The only disadvantage I have noticed is that some games and other programs which access the hardware directly will not run on NT since the OS protects hardware integrity through an abstraction layer. Also if you like plug and play (or plug and pray <g>) Win9X will detect more HW without assistance. Steve's comments about security are important. Also, unlike Win9X, NT will run faster with more memory (Win9X shows almost no benefit for more than 64 megs under most usage models). Win9X memory management is very primitive. I would recommend at least 32 megs for NT (but that's also a practical minimum for Win9X). 64 is better for a user who likes to keep a lot of apps open. But as Steve pointed out, at today's prices it hardly matters - just go with 128 and skip the analysis. But be sure that your tag ram will cache more than 64 megs - a lot of the standard chipsets will not, and others need to be set to allocate for a larger memory size. NT runs just fine on sub-1K machines, better than Win9X for most productivity uses. Hope this helps...