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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (18470)	6/27/1998 12:11:00 PM
From: Raymond James Norris	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

More of your cunning falsehoods. The Koran does not recognized Jesus as the Son of God! Who's making the falsehood? The Verse does not say "He who does not call Jesus the Son of God does not Honour the Father." It says, "He who does not Honour the Son, does not Honour the Father." I could post hundreds of verses from the Qur'an where so much Honour is shown to Christ. The Qur'an speaks with Love and affection, of respect and commandment. We must accept Jesus and love him more than we love ourselves. How can the Islam honor Jesus when they call Jesus a liar for claiming He and the Father were One? The Qur'an does not Call Jesus a Liar. Islam gives so much honor to Christ that Muslims must recite "Peace and Blessings of God Be Upon Him" anytime they say his name. That's more than you're doing here. I've already went over this particular verse but it's obvious not everyone here chose to pay any attention. Jesus stated: John 10:30 "I and my father are one." This verse, however is quoted out of context. The complete passage, starting with John 10:23, reads as follows: "Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one." John 17:20-22 What's clear from John 17:20-22 is that Jesus said He is "One" with the Father just as he is "One" with his disciples. If Jesus (Pbuh) IS God because he is "One" with them, then he also must be the disciples since he is ONE with them just as he is ONE with the father. Got it? How can Islam honor Jesus when they deny His Crucifixion? LOL.....maybe I should be asking you how can Christianity honor Jesus (Pbuh) when they accept the Crucifixion? What was made clear in the OT and NT is that anyone hanged on a tree is accursed by God. That God protects his elite Messengers. We read in Deuteronomy God's words when he says that anyone who speaks in His name and is not commanded to will be killed. The entire motivation to kill Christ was because in doing so would invalidate his entire message. How can Isalm honor Jesus when they demean Him by calling Him a mere messenger among many messengers and a mere Apotles? Jesus (Pbuh) was unique and an elite messenger. Islam gives him all due honor but all Praises are due To God, the Lord of All the Worlds. Jesus (Pbuh), after all, could do nothing of his own (John 8:28-29). Ray