DCF:
I assume you haven't read the Qur'an nor do you have access to one. For if you had, and read the verses, you would see how blatant the truth is. Where applicable, I have posted the verses so all can see the third (I've noticed this is your third post to ignore any of my questions and pose more questions to me. I wonder who's on shaky ground?).
And it just doesn't add up: Sura 4:11-12 and 4:176 state the Qur'anic inheritance law. When a man dies, and is leaving behind three daughters, his two parents and his wife, they will receive the respective shares of 2/3 for the 3 daughters together, 1/3 for the parents together [both according to verse 4:11] and 1/8 for the wife [4:12] which adds up to more than the available estate
Your problem here is easy. Verse 12 talks about what a woman leaves behind and verse 11 talks about what a man leaves behind (you would have seen that had you read the verses).
4:12 begins:
"In what your wives leave,"
There is no contradiction. Critics are too quick to grasp hold of what is being said and give it any interpretation.
. A second example: A man leaves only his mother, his wife and two sisters, then they receive 1/3 [mother, 4:11], 1/4 [wife, 4:12] and 2/3 [the two sisters, 4:176], which again adds up to 15/12 of the available property.
Again, Verse 11 is speaking on what the man leaves behind and verse 12 on what the woman leaves behind. Why would both verses give limitations on how much is left to the children? It's because certain limitations exist.
I already explained how the man gets more because of his obligations to the wife. These verses only give the details of how much is left to the descendants once all legacies and debt has been paid.
How many angels were talking to Mary? When the Qur'an speaks about the announciation of the birth of Jesus to the virgin Mary, Sura 3:42,45 speaks about (several) angels while it is only one in Sura 19:17-21.
Well lets have a look at the verses so you can see how preposterous the notion you bring is:
Sura 3:42-45
Behold! the angels said:
"O Mary! God has chosen thee
Above the women of all nations
O Mary! worship
Thy Lord devoutly:
Prostrate Thyself,
And Bow down in prayer
With those who bow down
This is part of the tidings
of the things unseen,
Which We reveal unto thee
by inspiration:
Thou wast not with them
When they cast lots
With arrows, as to which
Of them should be charged
With the care of Mary:
Nor was though with them
When they disputed the point
Behold! The angels said:
O Mary! God giveth thee
Glad tidings of a Word
From Him: his name
Will be Christ Jesus
The son of Mary, held in honour
In this world and the Hereafter
And of the company of those
Neartest to God.
Okay, that's all the verses. Let's turn to where you believe the contradiction exists, in Surah 19:17-21
She placed a screen
To screen herself from them
Then We sent to her
Our Angel (Gabriel), and he appeared
Before her as man
In all respects.
She said, "I seek refuge
From thee to God
Most Gracious: (Come not near)
If thou dost fear God."
He said: "Nay, I am only
a Messenger from thy Lord,
(To announce) to thee
The gift of a holy son."
She said: "How shall I
Have a son, seeing that
No man has touched me,
And I am not unchaste?
He said: "So it will be
Thy Lord saith, "that is
Easy for Me: ANd (We
Wish) to appoint him
As a Sign unto men
And a mercy from Us.
It is a matter
(So) decreed.
So, you say a contradiction exists. Hmmm.....I wonder what the verse directly before this one said. Oh, here it is: 19:16
Relate in the Book
The Story of Mary,
When she withdrew
From her family
To a place in the East"
Wouldn't you know it, this verse refers back to 3:42-51. And we see another deception that only those who do not have the Qur'an or do not investigate will be deceived by.
In 3:42-51, The Qur'an tells the story of when the angels were first sent to Mary to announce the "glad tidings" of a Word from Him whose name would be Christ. In 19:17-21, we have Gabriel coming to Mary informing her that the son would now be born. She in turn informs Gabriel that she can't have a son since she has not been touched (in chapter 3:42-45, she is unaware the birth will be a miraculous one).
And how do I know for certain that that is true? Simple, and the most obvious error that the author of this supposed contradiction overlooked. In Surah 3, after verses 45, we have the same story that occurs in chapter 19. Chapter 3:47 reads:
She said: "Oh my Lord"
How shall I have a son
When no man hath touched me?
He said: Even so:
God createth
What He willeth
When He hath decreed
A plan, He but saith
To it, 'Be,' and it is!
Suddennly we see how clearly false this assertion is. Quoting 3:42-45 and then separately 19:17-21 disallows the reader to see that both verses are talking about the same event. For the preceding verse of Surah 19:16 tells us that it is recounting the story from Surah 3 and the subsequent verses in Surah 3 tells us the same story as told in Surah 19. So again, no contradiction exists. Only to those who do not want to understand or comprehend. For those filled with hatred towards Islam, will forever lie about it.
Does Allah's day equal to 1,000 human years (Sura 22:47, 32:5) or 50,000 human years (Sura 70:4)?
Well you certainly aren't helping your plea. In Sura 32:5, the reader is told that
He rules all affairs
From the Heavens
To the earth: in the end
Will all affairs go up
To Him, on a day,
The space whereof will be
As a thousand years
Of your reckoning
Okay, so what does the other verse say? Surah 70:4
The angels and
The Spirit ascend
Unto Him in a day
The measure whereof
Is like fifty thousand years.
Uh oh, you think. It's a contradiction plain as day! Right?
Wrong. Only to those who refuse to give a second's worth of though to the verse. What's interesting is that Surah 22:47 and 32:5 both say a Day is like a thousand years of our reckoning. The second verse says a Day is like 50,000 years (and no mention of reckoning). Reading on in Surah 70 and we find this:
Therefore do thou hold
Patience, a Patience
of Beautiful contentment
They see the Day indeed
As a far off event
But we see it quite near
A day in the sight of God is very near but extremely large in our counting. Further, we notice that different words are used, one being "Space" and one being "measure." Why is this significant?
If we read Surah 32:5 carefully, we notice that the verse is talking about a specific day, "The Last Day" to be exact. Surah 70, on the other hand, is speaking of when the Angels and Spirit ascend to the earth and back which is ongoing. Such a glorious transformation is not to be attained without the highest spiritual exertion, and if we measure time as we measure it on the plane of this life, it may take thousands of years. In the spiritual plane, it may be just a day.
The restoration of all values will be as in a Day or an hour of the Twinking of an eye, and yet to our ideas it will be like a thousand years.
How many gardens are there in paradise? ONE [as stated in 39:73, 41:30, 57:21, 79:41] or MANY [18:31, 22:23, 35:33, 78:32]? ---
Oh you have got to be kidding. Anyone with any understanding of Islam knows that Paradise is often referred to as "The Garden" as the verses you mention. There are gardens within Paradise in which rivers flow and is filled with God and Pearls with garments of silk.
There are 7 Levels of Heaven. Each level represents what one can attain, with the 7th Level being the highest. There are Gardens of Abode which are the Levels.
I don't suppose you've ever seen a copy of the Qur'an? This is just like the AntiIslamic Literature posted here. It will only convince two kinds of people:
Those that Hate Islam
and Those that are too lazy to investigate it.
I'm not sure which camp you're in so please let me know.
According to Sura 56:7 there will be THREE distinct groups of people at the Last Judgement, but 90:18-19, 99:6-8, etc. mention only TWO groups. ---
My God......I really feel sorry for you.
In Islam, we believe that there shall be 3 classes of people on the Last Day. Among the Good there will be the specially exalted class, those nearest to God (as evidence from 56:11-26) and the righteous people generally, called the Companions of the Right hand (as evidence from 56:27-40). And there will be those of Agony, the Companions of the Left Hand (56:41-56). Many who were high and mighty in this life will be brought low for their sins, and many who were lowly but virtuous will be exalted to various ranks and degrees.
The secondary verses you talk about refer to the 2 Groups of the Righteous while the other verses you talk about refer to all 3 groups.
- There are conflicting views on who takes the souls at death: THE Angel of Death [32:11], THE angels (plural) [47:27] but also "It is Allah that takes the souls (of men) at death." [39:42]
God takes the souls of people through his angels. The Angel of Death is responsible for taking the souls of people. He takes the souls of people with the help of angels.
Angels have 2, 3, or 4 pairs of wings [35:1]. But Gabriel had 600 wings. [Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 455]
You have absolutely no idea what you're quoting from do you?
The first is a verse from the Qur'an but the second is not. Nice try though.
Six or eight days of creation? Sura 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, and 25:59 clearly state that God created "the heavens and the earth" in six days. But in 41:9-12 the detailed description of the creation procedure adds up to eight days.
God created the earth and the universe in 6 days (what's interesting is the Qur'an says that God created the earth and the heavens in 6 days and on the 7th He sat high in his throne where "weariness did not touch Him." Compare this to the Biblical equivalent which states God rested on the 7th day).
Surah 41:9-12 details the series of the days and what was created. Two of the days mentioned in the verses are the same 2 days and thus account for 6.
Allah creates the heavens and the earth in six days [7:54] and many Muslims want to be modern and scientific, and make that six eons, but then again, He creates instantaneously [2:117], "Be! And it is".
Here this is no contradiction just a failure of understanding Arabic. The work referred to when it speaks of the creation is "yohm" which meaning does not necessarily mean "day." It's actually a scientific accuracy how the Qur'an does not refer to the creation as 6 "days" but the Arabic describes the word as "periods." For a "Day" did not exist during the creation (after all, the earth was not revolving around the sun at that time) and the Qur'an is therefore scientifically more accurate than the Bible in this respect (and many others that we will later get to).
There is no mention of "eons" in the verse.
Well I have answered a good portion of what you posted. I can continue to finish the list if you'd like since it's easy to see the deception coming from anyone that has an ounce of knowledge on Islam.
I however feel that this is not a discussion since you have yet to answer one question of mine DCF. I have ongoing discussions with Steve Meyers, Shalom, Robert Hall, Emile, etc. and it's difficult to allocate time to each and every conversation. And what irritates me is that I'm answering all the questions and they never answer any of mine.
So is the same with you. Are you going to continue your attacks or actually stand up for your religion and address the problems at hand (such as the Contradictions in the Bible, the verses speaking of A coming prophet from Arabia who would be unlettered (illiterate)).
I leave you with these verses from the Qur'an
O ye who believe!
Enter into Isl m whole-heartedly;
and follow not the footsteps of Satan;
for he is to you an avowed enemy.
61.7
Who doth greater wrong than
one who forges falsehood against God,
even as he is being invited to Isl m?
And God guides not those who do wrong.
May the Peace and Blessings of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful, Be Upon You
Ray |
