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To: Jamey who wrote (18528)	6/28/1998 2:01:00 AM
From: Alan Markoff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

How do you overlook the many things Paul has said and still believe that you are the spiritual Israel of God? This concept is wrong and I pray that you throw away these false teachings and read the Word from a new, fresh perspective. How do you reconcile these verses with your belief that God has cast the Jews away? Thanks Santiago Alan

To: Jamey who wrote (18528)	6/28/1998 11:15:00 AM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 39621

"How do you overlook the many things..... and still believe that you are the spiritual Israel of God? " Perhaps this will help you understand: And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him; Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian , Scythian...but Christ is all, and in all, Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering.... Christians are the "elect of God" where " there is neither circumcision nor uncircumcision. The New Covenant people of God--the Christian people-- have existed for 2000 years. The old covenant people of God lasted from the establishement of the Hebrew nation in approx. 1400 B.C. to Christ's establishment of the Kingdom of God. The old covenant nation lasted for 1400 years. They represented but a shadow of the the glory that was to be in Christ's new Kingdom people. The old covenant with physical Israel was fulfilled when Jesus established His New Covenant with the house of Israel and the House of Judah at Cavalry.

To: Jamey who wrote (18528)	6/28/1998 12:31:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

"How do you overlook the many things..... and still believe that you are the spiritual Israel of God? " Maybe this will help erase some our your amazement. 28. There is neither Jew nor Gree, there is neither bond nor free,... for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. If we are in Christ, then we are Abraham's seed---meaing from his very nature.

To: Jamey who wrote (18528)	6/28/1998 12:51:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 39621

""How do you overlook the many things..... and still believe that you are the spiritual Israel of God? "" Maybe this will help you understand why I believe that Christians are the real Israel of God. 28. For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is out- in the flesh. 29. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whosepraise is not of men, but of God.