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To: JimieA who wrote (7897)6/28/1998 2:35:00 PM
From: Mike M  Respond to of 164687
 
Jim-

<<AMZN has no problem with working capital. That is the beauty of their business.>>

I think that may be a common misperception....Even AMZN seems to have come to a different understanding of late....A Friday release:

Amazon.com Says Staff of Almost 800 Is 'Strain'

Seattle, June 26 (Bloomberg) -- Amazon.com Inc., the No. 1 online bookseller, says it has hired so many people in recent months that its management and financial resources are under ''significant strain,'' according to a regulatory filing.

While Amazon has warned all along that the need to build a staff will cause strain, the burden of proof on the company has never been higher. Its market value is almost twice that of Barnes & Noble Inc., whose revenue as the largest U.S. bookseller is almost 20 times that of Amazon.

Amazon's stock has increased about 10 times in the past year to 94 1/4 at today's close in part because some investors and analysts see the Internet-based retailer as having a cost advantage over bricks-and-mortar competitors such as Barnes & Noble. Yet even those who support the stock say that its rising payroll represents a challenge to becoming profitable.

This is their greatest risk,'' said Nationsbanc Montgomery Securities analyst Steven Horen in San Francisco, who rates the stock a ''buy.''

Officials at Seattle-based Amazon declined to comment.

The money-losing company employed 796 people at the end of March, up from 158 just 15 months earlier. Its Web site currently advertises job openings for more than 75 positions, ranging from a software developer to a stock option administrator.

A large number of Amazon's staff fills orders, Horen said. If Amazon automates that process, it may be able to cut more costs, he said, its greatest opportunity.

If they don't automate, they're vulnerable to a margin squeeze,'' he said. The more expenses a company has, the less profit it has left over.

The company disclosed the payroll growth and the difficulties they are causing in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission in conjunction with a recent bond sale.

Amazon, with sales of $147.8 million last year, has a market value of $4.5 billion. Barnes & Noble had sales of $2.79 billion in its most recent fiscal year, while Borders Group Inc., the No. 2 bookseller, had revenue of $2.26 billion.

One reason why some analysts and investors like Amazon and other Internet retailers is that they avoid costs such as real estate that other companies face.

Still, that may be misleading because Internet-based companies often have to hire high-priced software developers, for instance, said Nicole Vanderbilt, an analyst at Jupiter Communications, a New York-based Internet market research company.

The lower cost is a myth,'' said Vanderbilt. ''With marketing and technology, the expense can be huge.''

Some aren't so bullish on Amazon's future.

The number of investors betting Amazon's stock would fall has soared in recent months, in tandem with the rise in Amazon shares. In May alone, the number of shares investors sold short rose 27 percent.

17:18:51 06/26/1998

Even if they do automate the investment will be huge.....
Regards,

Mike



To: JimieA who wrote (7897)6/28/1998 3:42:00 PM
From: Glenn D. Rudolph  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164687
 
AMZN has no problem with working capital. That is the beauty of their business.

They have no receivables. All sales are for cash and go right into bank.
Inventory is a very low $12M. Turning once every two weeks.
Property is a negligible $10M. They do not need bricks & mortar investment to sell on
the internet.

And they finance all this with accounts payable.
Bottom line is that AMZN lets its vendors finance its working capital.


Jim,

You really bought this line hook, line and sinker. Who is financing the servers and software development? Why is Amazon.con finding it necessary to carry more inventory? Amazon.con has burnt all the cash from the IPO and then some. Amazon.con has increased the number of wharehouses via lease. Hmmm...looks to me like they have a cash problem.

Glenn



To: JimieA who wrote (7897)6/28/1998 8:04:00 PM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen  Respond to of 164687
 
They do not need bricks & mortar investment to sell on the internet.

Somewhat misleading, of course. They certainly are not operating from a vacant lot. A more accurate statement would be that Amazon doesn't need a "fancy" brick & mortar investment (well except maybe the corporate offices), and the brick and mortar operations center can be in an industrial, as opposed to highly trafficked retail location.

From this perspective, Amazon is simply a book seller that "wholesales" to the general public from an industrial-type setting, reaching customers via the internet -- sorta like if Costco Wholesale or Sam's Club put a substantial presence onto the internet.