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To: Mr Bond who wrote (782)6/29/1998 1:41:00 PM
From: George Papadopoulos  Respond to of 5130
 
"I agree, let's get this bullshit off the thread and enjoy the football."

Amen. Good luck Goldfinger today. I am with you, just never liked the Yugos for some reason. Hope we see a great game. Still can't believe Mexico lost the game!

George



To: Mr Bond who wrote (782)6/30/1998 12:06:00 AM
From: X Y Zebra  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 5130
 
Zebra, I feel sorry for you.

Thanks, but no thanks. Take your sorrow to your prot‚g‚‚ purecaca, I do not need it.

Your experiences in England seem to have left you with a chip on your shoulder.

Not in the least, simply a wiser person. I do not carry chips of any kind, I simply will defend when I am attacked. no more no less, so do not invent what does not exists.

I am not the "turn the other cheek" type, that is all.

Sadly, I don't think purething aimed his post at you in particular, it's just that you are hosting the thread and you believed it was a personal attack on you.

Sure he did, not only that, he was blatant about it, in fact he said:

"How is that for jingoism"

Jingoism: (Webster's definition)

The spirit, policy or practice of jingoes --

Jingo:

A person who professes his patriotism loudly and excessively, favoring preparedness for war, and an aggressive foreign policy; chauvinist.

If you do not like heat..... do not get in the kitchen.

I have said it before, I will say it again, I started the thread, however, it is not MY thread, nor I am "hosting" it. This is SI and everyone is welcome to post whatever they feel they must, and accordingly face the consequences of their actions.

Do not attempt to "justify" this individual, as I am sure that he knew what he was doing.

Your comments in both posts were designed to offend, and you have the right to say whatever you like, but you really know nothing about me, what countries I've lived in, what education or qualifications I have, what other languages I speak or anything about my life, so just GROW UP and don't sink to the same level as purething.

Offend....? why, but of course, indeed they were meant to, 100 % and I have never hidden it. "Purecaca" started the attack, he chose me, I did not attack him nor anyone, nor I provoked him, nor anyone.

Therefore yes, the intent was to offend as it is the proper response for the first attack.

As for you:

1. I could not care less if you are from England, Mars, Venus, or Uranus, or if you speak Vulcan, Pharenghi, or Klingon, if you want to be treated according to what you insinuate you have/are/have been to/education/languages you speak, etc., then act accordingly and stop acting as the "defender of the ignorant".

2. You refer to me as spineless and not having balls, and further, insinuate I would not tell you to your face what is in my mind..... Yet, you address your message to Klaus, (two lines), and then proceed to make a snide remark, directed to me....

Grow Up you say?.... please, not only are you a pathetic individual, but further you are a peon of the absurd, you act precisely in the manner that you accuse me! You should have address me directly in the first place, not Klaus. All this has nothing to do with who you are, what is your education, how many languages you speak what countries you have been to etc. etc.

Me a Racist ? Hardly so.

Using your definition:

"RACISM" - (as defined by Cassell's Concise Dictionary)

"antagonism between different races, or towards races other than your own"

Did I create the antagonism ? A = NO

What is my race ? Do you know ? A = NO

(And I am not going to tell you either, since I simply do not believe in such crap anyway, suffice it to say, I AM from planet earth!).

Further, it appears that your definition comes from a "concise" dictionary indeed. (and a little deficient as well....)

Read the definition in Webster's Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary:

Racism:

1. a belief that human races have distinctive characteristics that determine their respective cultures, usually involving the belief that one own's race is superior and has the right to rule others.

2. A policy enforcing such asserted right.

3. A system of government and society based on it.

Now, There is NOTHING in my posts that asserts neither my race, nor the fact that race "x" is superior/inferior, to race "y"

In fact I have expressed many, many times, that I do not believe in "nations" "countries" borders" "flags", I have also expressed that my country is the world and my countrymen is the human race (any race).

Does that preclude me from defending myself from a clear attack and stupid insinuations, that given past military actions between two countries is what it is expected to be the outcome in a Soccer match? further insinuating that (I quote) "England Rules" (end of quote), hence Superior (btw this is racism).

A = Absolutely NO !
Should I be mute at the insinuation that Maradona may, or not be a drug addict and further he cheated in the last match, therefore Argentina's only hope to win is a cheating drug addict ?

A = NO !

The comment England Rules !, in the context of the message sent to me, seems to suggest an air of superiority, (in my opinion), suggesting superiority (at least) of England over Argentina, hence HE is the racist, not me.

So, Mr. Bond, who is the racist ?....

Did I become irritated ? A = Yes, very much so.

Was my intention to offend ? A = Certainly so.

Am I a racist ? A = NO !

Do I dislike idiots, morons, and the like. A = big YES !

I will repeat it again, once attacked, I have no reason to be considerate, and further I have the right to use the same arguments.

I did, only smarter and while indeed offending (it was the intent), never in a racist fashion.

I agree, let's get this bullshit off the thread and enjoy the football.

Deeds are better than words Mr. Bond, do not keep on attacking me, you will only prompt my defense.

Goodbye Mr. Bond.

Z.