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To: CMS27 who wrote (208)	6/30/1998 12:12:00 PM
From: Henry Volquardsen	Respond to of 13060

Scott, my point was that once you allow the interventionist in government to regulate one part of our private lives they will inevitably try to control other area. There is no ebb and flow, it moves in one direction with the exception of the repeal of prohibition. We strongly regulate drug use now. We are moving forward aggressively on controlling people's use of cigarettes. The same health professionals that have moved on tobacco are already talking actively about becoming more restrictive on alcohol. They will move into the area of what we eat as well. And don't try to say they won't make such moves, just look around us. I can clearly remember when I was a kid that I was able to just grab my bicycle and go. In the town that I live in if you allow your child to ride his bicycle without wearing a helmet you will be warned and eventually fined. The interventionist wish to regulate all aspects of our lives in the interest of protecting society. And they rarely relinquish any ground they win. Henry

To: CMS27 who wrote (208)	6/30/1998 12:25:00 PM
From: MeDroogies	Respond to of 13060

Ummm, I didn't know societies WERE structured. Seems to me they are self-evolving, emergent, complex organisms. Nobody sits down and designs a society...except central planners. As such, the dynamism of a society flows from the interactions and relationships of individuals within the group. Also, to have a "design" for a society means you have to design overlapping societal arrangements (nobody is part of ONE singular "society"), which is very hard to quantify or qualify. I'd say it's impossible. Actually, "society" IS similar to the laws of physics...nobody has the design down perfectly yet...and probably never will. All physics are based on quantum theory, which has inherent flaws and "contradictions" as a "societal" or "physical" arrangement, but very few flaws (just undiscovered truths) at the "base" level (quarks...muons...etc). I have vastly oversimplified the physics here, and would love any physicist on the thread to modify or alter it... Anyone else read anything from the Santa Fe Institute? I would suspect a good number of the members there are Libertarian based on the Complexity Theories they have developed. The rules that complex arrangements follow are relatively simple. Three rules define how a flock of birds flies... Check it out, for those of you who are interested.