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To: I Am John Galt who wrote (266)6/30/1998 6:06:00 PM
From: Daniel W. Koehler  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13060
 
Matty

<<The free market, without government regulation, cannot survive as a free market.>>

That sentence is a logical oxymoron. ie. FREE can't stay free unless it is made UNFREE. Thus, government regulation is the sine qua non for free markets. I say it is consumer hegemony and voluntarism that keeps markets free. Your statement reminds me of Bertrand Russell's logical paradox - "Everything I say is untrue" etc.. "

This is one axiom I cannot share with you. Markets evolve dynamically unless artificial restraints are placed on them by a coercive sovereign.

Daniel



To: I Am John Galt who wrote (266)6/30/1998 10:58:00 PM
From: MeDroogies  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13060
 
Never saw a free market fail until the government got involved. Explain how MSFT is running amok again. I'm not fond of them, but the DOJ isn't serving me at all. I have always had a choice of OS, and always will....regardless of MSFT. IF YOU want to be a sheep and ONLY buy MSFT products...that's your choice. I requestes a PC WITHOUT WINDOWS...and paid less for it. Anyone can do it.
I use Windows to work, sometimes to play. BUT nobody forced me to.

I would like a clear listing of every monopoly the DOJ broke up that benefitted the consumer. Wait! Before you make that list...make sure that the market wasn't already under attack and being destabilized...and that the DOJ merely sped up a process already taking place (at great expense, I might add).

Also, give me a REAL case of market failure that existed WITHOUT government interference of some sort.

I readily agree with MILD progressive government involvement...mild regulatory oversight...but nothing of an active nature. Governments should remain OUT of the market.

As for MSFT, I repeat ONCE AGAIN - if the Government was serious, they could cancel their contracts with MSFT. This would HURT MSFT, save the US taxpayer many $$$$$ and give MSFT a legitimate black eye. All via the use of the supposedly unfree market....
Instead, we use jackboot political tactics to foist the "public good" on MSFT.