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To: Mike P. who wrote (318)	7/1/1998 10:55:00 AM
From: I Am John Galt	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13060

Well, the words you speak are a little harsh, but succinct and to the point. The difficulty with the "communist manifesto," is that one has to take the "I" out and replace it with "we." Even Marx had difficulty believing his ideal world could exist. As long as greed plays a role in nature, communism is a red herring :o) Matty Gregg

To: Mike P. who wrote (318)	7/1/1998 11:00:00 AM
From: MeDroogies	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13060

If you don't know your enemy, he will defeat you. I DO NOT espouse Marxism in ANY form. The fact that you dismiss it so readily show me that you just don't understand it and don't want to learn WHY it is dangerous. You think you know...but you don't really. I learned Marxism from the biggest group of Marxists in the US...at the New School for Social Research. I went there specifically to learn good economics (they are excellent econometricians), but also to prepare myself for the onslaught of philosophy that Marxists use. I was a rare bird, indeed, a Libertarian/Republican in a Marxist environment. They never were able to overcome my arguments in class because I have learned NOT to debate, but to engage in some semblance of classical rhetorical form. Marxists are debaters...and they debate, debate, debate. Debate is the essence of politics. Libertarians are practical people, and practice what they preach. While disagreements occur within the camp, the disagreements are matters of degree, not of form. As a result, any perceived debate is really just a matter of differences in form, not function. Politics is anathema to the Libertarian, but is engaged in only tentatively as part of the stark reality of life.... I would say that the code of the Libertarian is twofold: 1. If the market is allowed to make economic matters improve, then life (society) in general is improved and many disagreements dissolve. 2. If we preserve individual rights as the touchstone of all laws and our economic reality, point 1 will always be the case.