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To: MeDroogies who wrote (326)7/1/1998 1:38:00 PM
From: I Am John Galt  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 13060
 
Linux is a consumer product I bought off the shelf. If you choose to buy it, you know where to look for its products. That is what makes it a consumer product.

The G3 point ONLY further proves that there is a marketplace. If there is a need to run Windows (and there
always is - there's a need to run lots of OSs if you're any kind active user), then the G3 offers you a vastly
greater amount of choice than any typical Wintel box.
For the public to realize that will only require massive PR and advertising. But that happens to be what MSFT is
good at, and why they are in the position they are in. There are no laws against good marketing.


I disagree. Microsoft did not rise to power because of good marketing. They rose to power because they were able to capitalize on IBM's strategy and stole it. My hats off to Microsoft; they saw a window of opportunity and jumped on it. Bill Gates was able to buy DOS off of a little known Seattle company for 25,000 what is now worth several billion. I have no quarrels with that at all.

My issues with Microsoft do not really entail the Operating System, as I have stated before. My issues with Microsoft entail the unfair practice of first cloning Netscape Navigator (MSIE), and then integrating their operating system with Internet Explorer. That is not only blatantly unfair, but impossible for Netscape to combat with. If Navigator is a little bit better, that won't matter, for Microsoft will steal the idea and make just good enough to compete.

As for IBM, you did vastly overgeneralize. Review the facts of the IBM case and the DOJ's effectiveness on
IBM. If the DOJ was so effective, why did IBM continue to grow during the longest portion of time the DOJ
brought the case against them? Seems to me, people's attention were drawn to IBM, and their superior products
were recognized for what they were....or, as in the case of MSFT, their marketing became more effective.
The DOJ's case against IBM diminished dramatically as time went on, and eventually was left with no teeth as
the market morphed around IBM...any agreements and rulings that resulted were window dressing for the DOJ
to declare victory and go home.


The DOJ was effective in that it demoralized IBM. IBM was on top of its game, and using what some would claim to be false business practices. Although nothing was ever won, it was a dragged out fight for years, which eventually allowed IBM to find a niche it could live in without becoming a monopolic power.

I state again, if the government is serious about hitting MSFT where they live, why not use the market and
cancel contracts? How come nobody speaks to that point? Also, why didn't the DOJ go after Apple when they
tried to corner the computer market? They had complete and total control of a very large portion of the market
for some time. Why was Apple immune from DOJ pressure? Because the DOJ wanted time to let the market
work? If so, why doesn't the DOJ let the market work again?


My contention is Internet Explorer. That is the DOJ contention. They could care less about the OS just as long as the products are kept separate.

Matty Gregg