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To: Steelguy who wrote (18735)	7/3/1998 10:39:00 AM
From: Raymond James Norris	Respond to of 39621

. Most definitely the Paul is not as you say, " abolishing " the Law. Steelguy: I can tell you your thought process is not consistent with Main Line Christianity. I know that Jehovah's Witness believe the same as you do: being that Paul did not abolish the Mosaic Law. This however is a very minority belief. Do you eat pork Steelguy? Were you circumcised? Please answer these questions. Paul says very explicitly: "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law." Romans 3:28. Here he makes it clear that Man is justified without the deeds of the law. He even clarifies that And: "In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away" Hebrews 8:13. "Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God" 1 Corinthians 7:19. Even though circumcision was held in an even higher regard than the Sabbath itself in the law of Moses and the "commandments of God," Paul taught that it is possible to keep the commandments even if, contrary to the teachings of Jesus and the apostles, this foremost commandment of circumcision was abandoned. Abraham was eighty six years old when Ishmael was born (Genesis 16:16). When Abraham reached ninety-nine years of age, Ishmael was thirteen years old and remained the only son of Abraham. Now, God promises to establish his covenant with all of Abraham's "seed" without exception: "And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.." Genesis 17:7-8. God now informs Abraham that his covenant shall be given through circumcision, so Abraham immediately circumcises himself and Ishmael, the father of the Arabs (Genesis 17:23), thus establishing God's covenant with Ishmael. The significance of circumcision was also noted by Biblical scholars as being not merely an external act: "This was His own sign and seal that Israel was a chosen people. Through it a man's life was linked with great fellowship whose dignity was it's high consciousness that it must fulfill the purpose of God" Interpreter's Bible, p. 613 Ray