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To: mark silvers who wrote (18797)	7/4/1998 12:17:00 PM
From: George S. Montgomery	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

In the mind, you say. Of course...? I ambled over to the God playing field in search of a Hubert Few, a dazzling and taunted mind condemned to human confinement. ( Had just run into him for the first time on Christine's Feelings playing field, an amiable enough place.) Then, I noticed Emile was on your roster. Oi, thought I, a proselytizing, preachy thread with partisans pushing their products' perfectnesses in the conversion market. Not a good first impression. And, I strolled past some of the Raymond, Steve, Mark exchanges on contradictions and interpretations. And I had fun. These guys, I thought, were putting their minds to use in an intellectual form of Cryptoquote. Instead of amassing sticks and stones with which to maim or eliminate each other, they were playing a fairly heady game of gotcha. Like verbal internet chess. There were blessings and prayers conferred on each other with almost the politeness of oriental bows. THEN I REALIZED! Some of our species' greatest bloodletters were going at the same targets that have killed millions over the centuries. Islam vs. Christian vs. (since 1947) Jew. And nervous perspiration seeped from the inside of my skull to my temples.. gsm

To: mark silvers who wrote (18797)	7/4/1998 2:24:00 PM
From: Raymond James Norris	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Mark: However, just proving (not to say that you are or arent proving that) that the bible should not be taken as a literal translation of gods words, does not make a case for or against either Christianity or the Moslem religion. Mark, the contradictions do not prove that the Bible should not be taken as a literal translation of God's words. Where the contradictions exist, we can know that that portion must not have come from God. Mark, let me post these questions: Do you believe God would make contradictions?? Do you believe words inspired by God should have contradictions?? The very nature of the composition of the Bible begs the question of whether or not it is entirely inspired by God. Now, according to Islam, that which originates from God should contain no errors. It should have no contradictions and it should not disagree with itself (afterall God does not err as the human does). If we can demonstrate that certain parts of the Bible do contradict with one another, then how do we know that which is not true and that which is true? In other words, if you can't trust the Bible on the little things, why would you trust the Bible on the big things (and I'm not referring specifically to you). We have to look and search for an answer of why a part of the Bible is in error. If a Christian is content with the errors, that is his/her prerogative. They can live their life that way. There is no Compulsion in religion. Where are you planning on going with this? The only reasno I brought up the contradictions is to prove that the Bible is not in its entirety from God. Some of it is, as I believe, but not in its entirety. Once they agree on this, I will move on to other subjects. If they disagree and give proof, I will want to consider it. Jeremiah 8:8 How do ye say, We are wise and the law of the Lord is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain Ray