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To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (23265)	7/5/1998 7:54:00 PM
From: greenspirit	Respond to of 108807

Hi Dwight, it's good to see you still trying to bring some common sense to this thread. :-) A publicity stunt is exactly what it is! And of course the mass media will play it up to the hilt like she is some poor victim of a fascist teacher. I wonder how long it will be before the "radical liberal left" will insist on removing every prayer, the singing of God Bless America, The Star Spangled Banner, nearly every Christmas song and the reciting of the pledge of allegiance, from every gathering in the United States? Boy, wouldn't America be so wonderful without those hideous traditions?? Gee, then we can all move to France or Ireland and feel good about ourselves again. :-) Michael

To: Dwight E. Karlsen who wrote (23265)	7/6/1998 7:07:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

<<Did I say anywhere that the girl didn't have any freedom or right to not pledge allegiance to the American flag? No, I didn't. So why are you again making things up? Are you intentionally doing that?>> No, Dwight, I'm not making things up. What I'm trying to see is whether you are serious about your statement that people who do not wish to salute the American flag should really leave the country. You have called a very bright honors student stupid, and stated that she and her mother need psychiatric help. However, it seems to me that since the First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech, the girl should have the right not to salute the flag. If you suggest that people who do not pledge allegiance should leave, that does seem quite a totalitarian view of America to me. The French absolutely loathed the British during Colonial times. They would have done almost anything to bother them, and supported our revolutionary troops for that reason. You should be very, very happy that they did that, since George Washington was not much of a military strategist when he started, and we needed all the help we could get. I personally have no affinity at all for France, no connection, and would not really think of living or working there, although legally I could, and do speak French. I am not sure why you would want this poor young girl who is simply asserting her constitutional rights to live there, either. She is just as American as you are. Do you dispute that? You seem to be doing so!