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To: Raymond James Norris who wrote (18864)7/6/1998 2:51:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Was Jesus Crucified?
The eyewitnesss accounts say yes.
Six hundred years after the historical event Mohammad denied the Crucifixion of Jesus had ever occurred because of information he received in a "trance".
The Crucifixion of Jesus is the cornerstone of the Christian faith. No Crucifixion, no Christianity. Let us look at the key testimony from these two opposing sources.

First, let us look at the testimony of Mohammad. The sole testimony of Mohammad comes from his trance and is recorded in the Qu'ran.

SURA IV:137
That they said (in boast),
We killed Christ Jesus
the son of Mary,
The Apostle of God;
But they killed him not, Nor curcified him,


On the weight of this evidence from a trance 600 years after the Crucifixion, Isalm and its children like Raymond Norris deny the Crucifixion of Jesus.
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Now let us look at the eyewitness evidence for the Crucifixion.
Let us begin by providing and independent pagan eyewitness account of the Crucifxion. This account is taken from Pontius Pilate the head of the Roman authority who carried the Jewish sentence of Crucifixion.

The ACTA PILATI: PILATE'S REPORT TO CAESAR OF THE ARREST, TRIAL, AND CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS.
Pilate sends a detailed eyewitness report to Caesar on the Crucifixion of Jesus.

Now let us look at the eyewitness accounts of the Apostles disciples::

John's eyewitness account:
John 19
16: Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.
17: And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha:
18: Where they crucified him, and two other with him, on either side one, and Jesus in the midst.
19: And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS.
20: This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin.


We have here a clear account of the Crucifixion by John the Apostle.
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Luke's account taken from the Apsotles, disciples and the mother of Jesus who was present at the Crucifixion. Remember that Luke wrote his account after talking to and discussing the Crucifixion with many of the eyewitnesses. Compare this to Mohammads and Raymond Norris's testimoney opposing the Crucifixion.

Luke 23
33: And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.

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Matthew account is an eyewitness account. Matthew was a contemporary of Jesus and an Apostle who was constantly with Jesus for the last three years of His life.

Matt. 27
35: And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
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Now dear readers it is up to you to determine the veracity of these testimonies. Moahmmand and Raymond base there testimony on Mohammad's "trance" while the Apostles, disciples and Roman Governor base it upon their eyewitness observation.
Which do you choose to believe?