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Technology Stocks : Advanced Engine Technologies (AENG) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: PaulB who wrote (1239)	7/6/1998 11:54:00 PM
From: John Jacob Jinglehiemerschmitt	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3383

David, Auric ...... I must admit this is quite an interesting way to play your respective games. As Mr. Travis made the reference to "check-Mate" I must wonder who exactly are the pawns and who will end up KING. I must say it seems round one goes to Mr. Travis as he has managed to keep the stock price up, even if artificially...... One question on Buy Ins.......I would like to ask it of both of you as I know the answers will be competely different.... Trav....If you called for abuy in why would you sell 80,000 shares to the enemy??? could you have forced these shorts into the open market for the required shares???? Auric....Does the MM calling for a buy in have to supply the shares??? If not where else would one go to get them??? And will TRAV selling those 80,000 (to FAHN) show up as insider selling???

To: PaulB who wrote (1239)	7/7/1998 4:41:00 AM
From: STEVEN DEMOPOULOS	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 3383

Auric Goldfinger and Mr.Travis I am the guy from Yahoo that Auric mentioned in his post etc. The dialogue on Yahoo was between a guy named Investa2 , dytrdr and myself. If you look at Yahoo bb you will note that Investa2 started the message bb on June 3, the title was AENG FROM $13 to $1 , it is obvious to anyone with a half brain that the title in and by itself is biased and there must be an ulterior motive for it, or someone was trying to program you to believe AENG is a sure loser. It is true that Auric posted 2 messages by me on this board , however it also appeared to me that they are surely taken out of context.There are over 70 messages on this subject in Yahoo and it is for sure that the two messages stated here do no represent or capture the intent of the posts. Investa2 (who ever he is ) claimed AENG was a hype company and stated that : Murray Bailey was involved in a company that made trees grow while you watch ? I called Mr.Bailey and spoke to him about this amongst other matters about AENG. Mr.Bailey turns out was in no way involved in such a project , he further explained to me that his job in N.Z. was as head of a Trade Bureau official who assisted companies there. One of the companies he assisted was involved in a Chinese species of hard wood trees that had a quicker or faster growth rate, for SURE it did not grow while you watch and such a claim was never made by anyone. Obviously there is nothing odd about such a project, to state otherwise or that Bailey was in fact involved or claimed that trees grow while you watch is an attempt to ridicule or make Bailey seem to be low class circus clown or a moron. I challenged Investa2 to prove this statement, why ? because if a statement is made and one wishes to be credible that person making the statement must prove it. If you lie once then you have no credibility, period. Investa2 never proved this statement. With reference to Carroll Shelby , I called him two times and inquired directly about AENG and the OX2 engine, this was about one month ago. Mr.Shelby advised me that he was working with this engine, believed it to be credible and that he setting up the engine in to some sort of demo. vehicle. I never saw the engine but was only checking with Shelby that if in fact it did exist and if Mr.Shelby was involved with it. Mr.Shelby does not know me and never heard of me but I was fortunate to be able to talk to him about AENG. I also spoke to a guy named Carl who works with Mr.Shelby and he told me that he was directed by Mr.Shelby to work on this OX2 project etc. The suggestion was made in the posts by Investa2 that Mr.Shelby was only doing this OX2 deal for money or was not realy that hot about it etc. I asked Investa2 with regards to the letters Mr.Shelby wrote and my conversations with him , why he was making these statements and where is the evidence that Mr.Shelby was not either enthusiastic about the engine or that he did not believe in it, I have yet to receive a satisfactory reply. Investa2 claimed that he met or someone that he knows met and spoke to Mr.Shelby in a hotel etc. and that is where he obtained his information. I have yet to see any evidence that Mr.Shelby is not interested, enthusiastic or not working on the OX2 engine. There is no reason or evidence presented so far that Mr.Shelby is anything but an honest man and that he does not know his business. I know there have no tests been made on the OX2 engine that we can verify etc. However if Mr.Shelby does not know engines , than who the hell does ? If Mr.Shelby has been fooled , than forget about it , all bets are off. I suspect that Mr.Shelby can not be fooled in his field of expertize. If Mr.Shelby is making money on AENG this has nothing to do with us , I don't expect him to work for nothing, that in itself is absurd. Why are we here but to try to make money ? All the experts who are trying to figure the engine without bothering to witness it in real life, obtain the data and specifications, are realy trying to con us or have done a con job on themselves. As far as the reporter who wrote the negative article , he can not be found since I called this so called paper , that is nothing more than a two bit Pennysaver. Since I live in New York ,this publication is nothing more than something that is given for free or passed around. The STOCK DETECTIVE should investigate themselves , the only thing that stinks is their reporting, if that is what they call it. I do not know Auric Goldfinger or Mr.Travis or anyone on this board. What I expect and demand is that If you are long or short on this stock ,that only verified information should be posted or proven facts. There is much information that is needed and we should expect. It is also a good idea not to jump all over anyone or ridicule them until they are given the opportunity to prove or not prove their case. There is no suggestion to either buy this stock or sell it short. To solve a problem you must have facts , making false and absurd statements only leads to the confusion of the issue and chaos. All posts should be relevant to the issue only , facts will decide the matter, motives are of secondary importance. So state your facts, please. Regards, Steven D.