Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Strategies & Market Trends : Currencies and the Global Capital Markets -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: kormac who wrote (344)	7/9/1998 1:06:00 AM
From: Harmattan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3536

seppo, ---OT--- Thanks for mentioning Ellul. From another lifetime I seem to remember his concept of "technique", the machine as being the embodiment of "perfect technique", and how to make moral choices in the face of perfect technique. My recall is sketchy and therefore superfical but I think I laid him aside because his ethics seemed to be biased toward an "indeterminism of nature". In his words, "Fate operates when people give up". He is to much the optimist for my taste. My interest and study of cycles (Guenon) places me closer to an abstract determinist's view of nature. It seems to me Ellul makes to much of the "human comedy". I figure the moon's forces have more portent than any moral choice I make; Ellul asks questions like, is there technology we should morally choose to not develop? To me that is a nonsensical question. If and when we (mankind) come to a point that we begin to ask such questions then by definition we have already past the point (in a given cycle) of having any moral basis to ask the qustion. Maybe I see history bas-ackwards. But just like some stock charts that are better understood if flipped upside down, I flip some modern views of history. The Golden age (when reality was understood symbolically through myth) was at the beginning and everything since is decay towards an entropic (maximum materialism)state but cyclically. Ellul assumes it is possible to morally impact processes (ie. technololgy as technique) that are flawed. I figure if a tree is diseased, there is no un-diseasing it. Just have to cut it down or let it whither on its own. Or better, I see modern civilization as a chicken with its head cut off; very energetic for a few more moments but still dead. This discussion is related to "Currencies and Global Capital Markets" only by a very big stretch. If we continue this we better take it elsewhere before the thread boots us off. (ggg) regards, ghunk