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To: Jamey who wrote (18932)	7/9/1998 1:18:00 AM
From: capitalistbeatnik	Respond to of 39621

Hmm, maybe they were talking about Gandhi, who is not going to heaven while Jeffrey Dahmer is according to the credo.

To: Jamey who wrote (18932)	7/9/1998 1:30:00 AM
From: capitalistbeatnik	Respond to of 39621

Of course you failed to answer my question about why wars are still going on but I will answer yours: Many Christians attempt to make a Jewish text Christian by using Isaiah 53. I have heard the prophecy of a "servant of God" before. But that this refers to Jesus is purely a statement of faith, not proof. The servant is either the prophet himself who like all the Jewish prophets suffered for their service to God, or the people of Israel who are referred to as the servant of God nine times in previous chapters of Isaiah. This Christianizing of the Jewish concept of Isaiah 53 led Jewish philosopher Eliezer Berkovits to write: "God's chosen people is the suffering servant of God. The majestic 53rd chapter of Isaiah is the description of Israel's martyrology through the centuries and the way Christianity treated Israel through the ages only made Isaiah's description all the more tragically and truly. Generation after generation of Christians poured out their iniquities and inhumanity over the head of Israel, yet they 'esteemed him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted'"* *Faith After the Holocaust, 1973, pp 125-6. I also strongly recommend "The Nine Questions People Ask About Judaism" by Dennis Prager and Joseph Telushkin.