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To: Early Out who wrote (2335)	7/9/1998 10:09:00 AM
From: seth thomas	Respond to of 3033

What this means is that they've sold everything, so they can't drive the stock price down anymore. The ferocious volume over the past week or so essentially means that the big institutions who were going to sell have sold. It also means that someone figured that the stock was cheap - because for every seller, there's a buyer. So, the institutional holding of this company has completely changed. I'll bet the list of holders today looks nothing like the list of holders 3 weeks ago. Hopefully, we've bottomed. The company is clearly a bargain takeover play, and for those with a little patience, it's not hard to get a 50% return from a stock at 11, that is still a fundamentally strong company that needs some internal tuning.

To: Early Out who wrote (2335)	7/9/1998 10:14:00 AM
From: harryl1	Respond to of 3033

I think you both have this wrong. I have gotten multiple filings like this today on my investments (PRRC and others) that say that the capital group holding company, as a group entity, will NO LONGER be reporting collective ownership but will report by separate units WHERE the investement managers have independent authority to make investment decisions for their funds -- which is all of them. In fact, the SEC filing SPECIFICALLY says "this report is not intended to reflect ANY change in ownership of company XXXX". I will check the vntv filing to see if it is like the others....