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To: Jan Crawley who wrote (10027)7/11/1998 4:33:00 PM
From: llamaphlegm  Respond to of 164684
 
Barrons and Business Week:
The pig pile continues.

CLICK HERE FOR WACKY
VALUATIONS

The latest buying frenzy overinflates most Net stocks'
potential

Just when you thought Wall Street's worship of the Web couldn't get any
wackier, Internet stocks take off again--on another gravity-defying
streak. Look at Yahoo! Inc. In early June, its shares sold for $104, 12
times its initial-offering price in 1996. From there, it streaked to a
record of $199 on July 6 before settling down to $186 on the
8th--leaving it with a market cap somewhere north of $9 billion. This for
a company that analysts say might earn 45 cents a share. That
translates into a price-earnings multiple of 413.

Still, Yahoo! is practically a blue chip compared with other Net issues:
At least it has earnings. Many of the shares enjoying similar runups
don't even have much in the way of revenue.

So, why the latest outbreak of Web mania? One factor, say analysts, is
that small investors are piling into Internet-related stocks almost
indiscriminately in an attempt to catch the next big wave. In the process,
they are sending small-cap issues into uncharted regions at
mind-boggling velocities. Take Inktomi, a provider of search-engine
technology for companies that include Microsoft Corp. Its shares traded
publicly for the first time on June 10 at 18. Now, it's trading at 73 1/2. All
sorts of Internet-related stocks have been on a similar course, driving
the Hambrecht & Quist Internet Index from 141 on June 1 to a record
208 on July 6.

The new prices have even enthusiastic analysts scratching their heads,
trying to come up with valuation methods to explain them (page 34). ''If
there is a valuation model, it's so obscure that it defies me,'' says
Andrea Williams, an analyst at Volpe Brown Whelan & Co.

But there's something more than investor frenzy at play. While current
valuations will almost certainly prove unsustainable--some of the surge
is driven by speculation about takeover deals that may never come
off--beneath all the froth is the recognition that, at least for some
well-positioned companies, the Web is about to start delivering profits.

By 2002, there will be 62 million households online, and consumer
E-commerce will hit $22.6 billion a year, according to Forrester
Research Inc. That means the Web will finally emerge as a mass
medium for information, entertainment, and E-commerce. And
companies that now operate popular ''portals'' or that have proven their
ability to sell online are set to start reaping the rewards.

SOLID SUBSET. Yahoo!'s recent climb, for instance, was inspired by
analyst predictions that the company would beat projected 9 cents per
share earnings (before charges) in the June quarter. On July 8, Yahoo!
reported pro forma results of 15 cents per share. ''A subset of the very
many Internet companies are real companies building real
businesses,'' says David V. Crowder, a managing director at
NationsBanc Montgomery Securities. ''Yahoo! has grown faster and
become profitable much more quickly than people thought it would.''

Indeed, Yahoo! has evolved into the Net's top portal, drawing more than
40 million users a month. It keeps them coming with free E-mail and
other goodies--and advertisers who want to reach them follow. Yahoo!
also gets E-commerce revenue. The result: Analysts predict earnings
per share to jump to 75 cents on revenue of $229 million in 1999.

Who else will be able to deliver profits as well as promises on the Net?
In addition to Yahoo!, Amazon.com and America Online have carved
out strong positions. Online titan AOL is now the single most traveled
route to the Web. And Amazon has emerged as the most adept
cybermerchant. The online bookselling pioneer has branched into
music CDs, and analysts anticipate moves into toys and videos.
Revenue is projected to reach $1.3 billion in 2001, the year it sees
profits, with earnings of 86 cents a share, predicts Jamie Kiggen, an
analyst at Donaldson, Lufkin & Jenrette Inc.

But BancAmerica Robertson Stephens analyst Keith Benjamin says
that even the top companies are overvalued by his generous
yardstick--selling for more than 50 times his estimate of their earnings
per share in 2001. Amazon's stock has almost tripled since June, to
114 1/8 on July 6, before falling back to 107 on July 8. This gives
Amazon a market cap of $5.3 billion. That compares with Barnes &
Noble Inc.'s market cap of $2.9 billion on revenues of $2.8 billion last
year.

Can those values hold? Not likely. But, now, any company that can
identify itself with the Web has a winning stock--from Audio Book Club
to Zapata Corp. On July 6, fish processor and food-package-material
maker Zapata said it would split into two companies, with one focused
on investing in Net sites. Zapata shares doubled, to 21 1/2, in one
day--even though, Montgomery's Crowder points out, it really isn't in the
portal business--it just plans to be.

BIG BETS. ''Portal'' is the magic word, however. With media
companies on the prowl for portals to the Web, investors hope to cash
in on those deals. NBC kicked off the rush on June 9 when it bought
19% of Snap!, a portal site put together by Internet news publisher
CNET Inc. The next media company to bite was Walt Disney Co. On
June 18, for $70 million and its controlling stake in Web site publisher
Starwave Corp., Disney acquired 43% of Infoseek.

Now, investors are placing bets on who will be next. Netscape
Communications Corp. shares leaped 53% on July 1-2 after an exec
told a TV interviewer that the company was talking to media companies
about publishing content on its Netcenter, giving it more portal potential.
And shares of Lycos Inc., the No.4 search engine, have risen as the
company negotiates with major media companies, including CBS and
Time Warner Inc. But nothing is imminent, say sources close to the
company.

But many analysts warn that the deal angle may be a sucker bet. Prices
have already risen so high for portal plays that outright buys have
become prohibitive. Once that sinks in, valuations of such companies
could begin to drift down--which has some investors shifting their focus
to E-commerce, where profits may come sooner. A new joint study from
International Data Corp. and RelevantKnowledge Inc. says that by
2002, half of the 102 million people in the U.S. who use the Net at home
will be shoppers.

So investors are turning to cheaper E-commerce stocks. Those include
music retailers CDnow Inc. and N2K, both valued at less than two times
1999 revenues, vs. almost nine times for Amazon, says Volpe's
Williams. E*Trade has also been left behind because of concerns over
rising competition in online brokerage. But Anurag Pandit, portfolio
manager for the $600 million John Hancock Emerging Growth Fund,
says E*Trade is a category leader: ''They're redefining the process of
investing.''

For now, however, you can forget fundamentals. What is lofting Internet
stocks--and could quickly bring them back to earth--are forces within
the equity markets. Most basic are the laws of supply and demand.
Investors continue to chase a scarce supply of shares. Excite, for
instance, has 7 million publicly-traded shares. That makes for a lot
more volatility than, say, Disney, which has 671 million. The small float
exaggerates short squeezes, too--when short sellers scramble to cover
their positions and push prices up. In June, short interest in Amazon hit
8 million shares--out of about 16 million.

Another huge force: institutional investors. Ominously, some have been
selling Internet shares recently. ''The group has gone to valuations that
aren't sustainable,'' says Michael P. DiCarlo, a partner at DFS
Advisors, which holds AOL, CDnow, and E*Trade, after taking profits in
Lycos and Infoseek.

How far could Internet stocks fall? Some analysts are bracing for a 20%
to 30% correction after second-quarter earnings announcements. That
could induce the flip side of this stock-buying mania--Web depression.

By Heather Green in New York, with Amy Cortese in New York, Paul Judge in
Boston, and Robert D. Hof in San Mateo

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MAD MARKET
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To: Jan Crawley who wrote (10027)7/11/1998 4:34:00 PM
From: llamaphlegm  Respond to of 164684
 
COMMENTARY: NET
STOCKS: IT'S A MAD, MAD,
MAD, MAD MARKET

Finance 101 tells us that stocks are almost always rationally priced--the
theory that all information about companies and their prospects is
incorporated into prices. But some investors looking at sizzling Internet
stocks such as Yahoo!, Excite, and Amazon.com come to one of two
conclusions: Either the market in its collective wisdom knows
something about these companies that escapes the average investor,
or the theory is just bunk.

Certainly, most of the tools investors use to value equities don't work
here. Price-earnings ratios? Many don't have earnings. Price-to-book
value? Book value is a meaningless number in a business where fixed
assets are scant and accounting convention doesn't value cyber real
estate. Cash-flow models work well on mature companies with low
capital expenditure needs, but usually don't on fast-growing tech
companies.

OVERPAYING. Some folks might feel more comfortable paying for a
company, such as Yahoo!, that is currently profitable--rather than for
one that isn't, such as Excite. But that may be a false sense of security.
Look at Yahoo! Wall Street analysts are forecasting profits of 45 cents
a share this year and a five-year compounded annual growth rate of
57%, according to Zacks Investors Research. If the seers are right, that
57% growth rate puts Yahoo profits at $4.29 a share in 2003. At the
current price of 186, the stock is trading at 43 times projected earnings
five years from now. That's nearly double the p-e ratio for the Standard
& Poor's 500-stock index, based on the next 12 months' earnings.

Are investors overpaying earnings of the Internet companies? It sure
seems so. That's why small company investors such as James L.
Callinan of Robertson Stephens Emerging Growth Fund prefers using
the price-to-sales ratio. On that count, Callinan says Yahoo! sells at 80
times what the last quarter's sales figure would be if annualized. Excite,
which is not expected to turn profitable until late next year, comes in at a
relatively modest 12 times sales. Callinan notes that Yahoo!'s forecast
revenue growth rate is 200%, compared with only 100% at Excite. But
is the faster rate worth more than six times as much?

Price-to-sales has its shortcomings, too. Excite might be a steal
compared with Yahoo!, but who's to say 12 times sales isn't too high?
Buying the cheapest company in an overvalued industry is no
guarantee of getting a winner. ''Yahoo! gets a premium price because
it's the market leader by a long shot,'' says Paul Cook, portfolio
manager at Munder NetNet Fund. ''Not all the search engine
companies will survive.''

Nor is there a guarantee that Yahoo! will stay on top. Emerging
technology industries can turn on a byte, leaving today's sparkling
business plan looking like yesterday's lunch. Three years ago,
Netscape Communications Corp. went public and shot to 84 times
sales--higher than Yahoo!'s current valuation. Aficionados bragged that
it would eclipse Microsoft Corp. As if. Once Microsoft set its sights on
the new kid on the block, Netscape's hot hand turned to ice.

There's no doubt that, as an industry, the Internet has huge potential.
But the bottom line is how much investors will pay in today's real dollars
for tomorrow's yet-to-be-determined profits. Perhaps the market's
extraordinary valuations on the Internet companies are rational. But it
will take years at least before we know. The penalty for being wrong,
especially for those buying at today's prices, will be severe.

By Jeffrey M. Laderman

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To: Jan Crawley who wrote (10027)7/11/1998 4:54:00 PM
From: umbro  Respond to of 164684
 
"Burn, Baby Burn"

The title of an article in this weekend's SF Chronicle covering
a new book called "Burn Rate", which is ... hmmm ... let's just
say critical of some rather high profile Silicon Valley start ups:
sfgate.com

No direct mention of Amazon.com in the article, but
the author did have a few things to say about the wunderkind
venture capitalist John Doerr, who between himself and VC firm
Kleiner Perkins owns a good percentage of AMZN. Here's what
the author had to say:

- Venture capitalist John Doerr. ''More and more, Doerr was
thought to be a combination of (former junk bond financier)
Michael Milken and agent extraordinaire Michael Ovitz. . . .
(Doerr) was a financier, fixer, networker, guru, all-around
string puller.''

-- @Home Networks. ''A classic Doerr creation. It wasn't so
much a good idea or a bad idea; rather, it was, like an
Ovitz blockbuster, so full of stars that it would be big
even if it was bad.''

and a few other quotes:

-- America Online. ''AOL recast itself as America's gateway
to the Internet, which was fairly audacious considering that
you couldn't get to the Internet from AOL.''

-- Microsoft Network. ''By the summer of 1996, Microsoft was
coming to terms with its first substantial blunder in
cyberspace. Or, actually, in fact its second. Its first was
to ignore the Internet altogether.''

-- Yahoo's ''estimated $9 billion market value doesn't make
one bit of sense to me, there is nothing there.''

and bears, remember, if you want to order "Burn Rate", the
proper URL is:

shop.barnesandnoble.com

($18.95 at B&N, including shipping - $21.95 at Amazon.com. The
B&N page has a sample chapter. AMZN does not.)



To: Jan Crawley who wrote (10027)7/11/1998 5:32:00 PM
From: umbro  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
Jan, Amazon's float is closer to 19 mil.
Marketguide got it wrong,
and listed the float as 6 mil. and the media has been using that
number ever since. The company, Amazon.com, had a chance to correct
this figure but simply stated that the company "doesn't comment on
the float". Amazon has more shares in its potential float than
any of the other well known internet stocks (YHOO, LCOS, SEEK, etc.).