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To: Thomas Winklhofer who wrote (47818)	7/15/1998 5:28:00 AM
From: Patrick Slevin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 58727

I use Man but there are very many good ones. I think the CME or CBOT includes a list of them in a mailing when you ask for info. LLG and J Aron are two that I have heard good things about, and of course I'm happy with Man. Trades over here vary from 16/20 dollars all the way up to a hundred, from what I'm told. Normal is 20 to 40 and I pay 30. Plus a couple/three dollars in fees. It's funny you should mention most people lose money with futures because I was just going through that today. I believe that if a positional traders "wins" better than 40% of the time s/he is doing well. Because a positional trader cuts the trade quickly on a stop loss. Daytraders have much higher expectations because they are just in and out quickly. I've been doing better recently but that's just a streak. Normally I expect about 70%. So you have to factor that in; whether you will be day-trading or position-trading. Good luck with it.