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To: Void who wrote (594)7/14/1998 11:11:00 PM
From: Henry Niman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1906
 
The table that ligand uses in its annual report:
home.att.net indicates that a preclinical molecule has been SELECTED. I'm not sure that the drawing board is as far back as you seem to think it is.



To: Void who wrote (594)7/15/1998 5:35:00 PM
From: Henry Niman  Respond to of 1906
 
Void, I have now had a chance to read the entire article and the quote that you posted is really the only info on species specificity. I have re-read the paragraph and Rosen does seem to be just talking about SB247464, when he discusses the mouse specificity. When he talks about the "several drawing boards", he does not indicate that they have not found a human-active compound when these other avenues were explored.

The article does address your question about SB247464 moving into the clinic, and LGND indicates that the molecule will be used to explore its mechanism of action (in mice) and its structure will provide a prototype to find related molecules that are human-active).

As I said in February, I think that LGND does have a human-active compound(s) and it is in pre-clinical testing (which seems to be borne out by the pipeline table at home.att.net which indicates that a compound has been identified and SELECTED.
Robinson's comments on SBH "gobbling up" LGND's targets also supports the conclusion that the programs offer considerable promise and they are move forward and expanding at a rapid rate.




To: Void who wrote (594)7/16/1998 12:22:00 PM
From: Henry Niman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1906
 
I think that there is a bit on confusion with regard to the pipeline as well as what
exactly a "human-active" G-CSF mimic is.

The table that I put up at home.att.net is not a table that is
predicting anything. It comes from LGND's 1997 annual report and it merely represents
progress to date (i.e. the progress has already happened). The above table is a more
graphical version of the table at home.att.net which is
actually taken from LGND's SEC filing:
edgar-online.com

The molecule defined in the Science paper was deemed to be mouse-specific because it
mimicked G-CSF in mouse cell lines and animals, but did not work in human cell lines.
It was not placed into patients but the molecule that does enter the clinic will be tested
on human cell lines in pre-clinical tests.

I think that LGND does indeed have a molecule that is human-active which was based
on human cell lines. Obviously there have been no human trials yet. The human-reactive
molecule has not been announced and an IND has not been filed.