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Gold/Mining/Energy : Napier International Technologies Inc. (T.NIR) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: xray who wrote (844)	7/17/1998 9:59:00 PM
From: Ginco	Respond to of 2444

xray who's telling you to invest- Don't invest-stay out of it or better still- short the stock

To: xray who wrote (844)	7/18/1998 1:50:00 PM
From: Greg from Edmonton	Respond to of 2444

"It is unreasonable to make projections now since there simply is not enough data", Gino says. xray further comments to say that "This approach to investing is dangerous, naive, gullible, or all of the above." xray you seem to be a 'numbers and formulas' man, which can often be used to explain stock valuations. I must admit I can understand your viewpoint but I agree more with Gino here. Whether NIR currently represents good value remains to be seen due to lack of historical data because the products are new but I would (and have) put more emphasis on its future potential than in past sales figures. The product truly speaks for itself, I have been trying the SV-35 product with good results so far. Right now I can cite 2 Very Big examples of where the stock valuation formulas don't seem to fit (AMZN and YHOO). Especially for the internet stocks lately, 'mania' is the only term that seems to apply, watch out if (when?) the internet bubble bursts. Check these postings out: exchange2000.com And this one is kinda interesting too: exchange2000.com On the other end of the spectrum are 'broken' stocks whose market cap. is less than the company's fixed assets, I'm sure there have been examples. So the traditional formulas do not always apply. But if anyone does gather enough accurate and current information to provide an accurate valuation of stock price (ideally with some decent projections), then I'm sure we would all like to know.

To: xray who wrote (844)	7/18/1998 4:44:00 PM
From: AL	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 2444

Since we don't have anything better to discuss here while we are waiting for some company fundamentals, let's play with the numbers. (I'm sure Mr. Grinnell will have a good laugh ) OK, What is evryones GUESS as to what P/E the market may assign . What is your guess as to the net profit/share as a percentage of gross sales. What is your estimate of gross sales. Mine: P/E of 40:1 to start 20% earnings. Sales 1st year of 65 million $ this makes yearly earnings of .43 / share and a share price of $17.20 Don't laugh, it could be true... The new year starts Aug 1 for Napier. Al

To: xray who wrote (844)	7/19/1998 10:43:00 AM
From: Ginco	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2444

Lentils has been attacking Napier for 2 months on SH and recently on SI-and it seems that you and him are on the same wavelenght-I suggest you also read what Bunka is saying about Napier-only 5$ -Here's what your good friend(lentils or slitnel) has to say of Bunka- I would post it and save you the money but it's copyrited I also know that lentils is waiting for someone to post it-to save $5 207.102.98.109 ------------------------------------- Now I send you (slitnel-lentils) to read Bunka-your main man go ahead and-read BOBO read-tell us what your man says about Napier DAVID IS GOING TO HAVE A FIELD DAY WITH THIS ONE Below you find links of your posts DIRECTING everyone at SH to READ Bunka-NOW YOU GO I think I indicated I wouldn't hold NIR here neither long nor short. Many of the companies I post to I have no position in, 207.102.98.109 " but I really don't think anyone is going to regard you and your first spec investment as more knowledgeable than Bunka." 207.102.98.109 "IF one was going to follow a newsletter, better one that dosen't obviously have his hand in the promoters pocket like Neil Maedel. For the record (contrary to what has been implied) Bunka has made statements to the effect that one would be crazy not to be taking at least some" profits 207.102.98.109 "I will provide the site, as I know there are at least a couple of sensible people reading this. On the home page, click on guest, choose 'newsletters' and then 'Bunka'. Choose to read the trackers, where all but his latest comments on NIR can be read for free. go to canspecresearch.com" 207.102.98.109 "I think I indicated I wouldn't hold NIR here neither long nor short. Many of the companies I post to I have no position in," 207.102.98.109 "How many times are you people going to repost the MAEDEL article? DO SOME RESEARCH ON HIS RECORD! You could at least offer Bunka's articles for a little variety." 207.102.98.109