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To: Phil(bullrider) who wrote (253)7/18/1998 1:28:00 AM
From: Whiskey  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1206
 
bullrider,

I find your statement somewhat complicated. At what age would you consider your daughter old enough to converse in the chat rooms? If sex sells, which it does, your kids and mine can buy it when we are there or not there. Sex and violence sell in the movies and our children have become more violent and more sexually atuned to there peers. I for one don't feel this is or has been good for all involved. Playboy was one thing some of this other stuff is downright sick.
I for one will reconsider my position now without visiting the site and take the other members word for it. Supporting companies like ZAP who in turn own these sites is part of the problem. I would like to first know what there intentions are before I make a decision. If its business as usual at the site then I am out.

Best of luck to all,

Whiskey



To: Phil(bullrider) who wrote (253)7/18/1998 2:08:00 AM
From: RJC2006  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1206
 
<<<I was informed that the thread was for people that had a special interest in kids, and that if we didn't like it we could leave.>>

Well, NAMBLA claims to have a special interest in kids and I wouldn't mind censoring them one bit.

<<<Needless to say, the messages were reported to AOL. >>>

Which is akin to reporting Congressional wasteful spending to the IRS.

<<The stuff goes on. Can anyone stop it? I hope so. But where it involves adults conversing with adults, and adults viewing pictures of
adults, and it only involves adults, I don't want anyone ensoring me and I am sure you don't want anyone censoring you.>>

Why not? Censorship goes on all the time in this country when appropriate. Just watch Bob Cat's Big Ass Show and you will see what I mean.


<<The main reason for that, is that, who get's to do the censoring? Where do you draw the line? Should we censor Playboy or Penthouse magazines?>>>

I don't know, do you have stock in Playboy?

<<Should we censor National Geographics? You don't remember sneaking a peek in the library at school?>>

This is a very flimsy argument that has been used for years but holds no water. To compare naked breasts of African tribeswomen living in their natural habitat to the San Fernando porn industry....

<<Now, simply, so no one misunderstands my position, where pedophiles,(SP?), are involved, I believe we should attack them and prosecute them with everything we have.>>

Which is incredibly difficult to do in internet chat rooms and when there is instant image posting then its a whole new ballgame. I would suggest that if Zap is going to buy this site they might be wise to buy NetNanny too.

<<But where it is simply adults vs: adults, I feel what I see or do is none of your business, and what you see or do is none of my business, whether it is on the internet or not. After all, your computer is in your home. Should I try to say that you cannot accept a Playboy magazine and view it in your home?>>>

First of all, Playboy has never published hard care XXX pornography. Neither has Bianca's. But unfortunately, Bianca has left a door open for such material to be accessible. However, this isn't the part that disturbs me but rather the fact that illegal material can also find its way on there. Do you really think that as a recent investor in ZAP I like having to post these facts?

<<<The fact that ZAP has decided to align itself with this kind of web site, when it comes to my investment, does not really concern me. Does it please me? Of course not. But it certainly would not cause me to sell or to short it. Face it, sex sells. Look at Baywatch, and any number of prime time television shows. People like to watch other beautiful people, and no amount of censorship will ever change that fact.>>>

What you say may be true but when you are attempting to lure advertising to your site it pays to be very selective about your choices.

<<<Should we make money because of the fact that people are into talking about sex? Why not? Other people are.>>>

They may be but the cast of Baywatch have their cloths on last time I checked.

<<<In closing, simply, to each their own, as long as the children are not involved. When they are, I plan to get involved.>>>

Just let me know when you are ready and I will send you an URL from the Bianca site but before you access it make sure your kiddies are in their beds and your doors are locked. After you access it ask yourself how hard it would be for your kids to access it. I could care less what adults view, the more the merrier if that's what flips their switch but what makes me apprehensive about this purchase is that for little profit they may be coloring the view of their whole site. We all know that it isn't reality that matters as much as perception.

I think that ZAP was sold a bill of goods on this one and I wouldn't be surprised if this one eventually gets rejected.