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Microcap & Penny Stocks : VLVT (was CSMA) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TraderGreg who wrote (8050)	7/18/1998 10:41:00 AM
From: KZAP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 11708

Let's put it this way. I have been a long time supporter of this thread and CSMA. All my posts are here and everyone should know where I'm coming from. I have talked to most of the key players in CSMA. I have read quite a bit about all the deals that CSMA has done. There are many news releases that are all but forgotten on this thread that expired on Yahoo. But they are obtainable. IMHO you must always take a overview of what has happened to get a clear picture. One thing that kept hitting be in the head is the post Carole posted and was removed from SI. Remember that? To me, that was a hint of the type of people out there that we could be dealing with in any given penny stock. We don't have any official forms to prove other wise! Who have we been dealing with? I'm as interested in knowing the true story the "real" story as I used to call it. (remember, you can go back and read my posts.) I passed on the info as I was led to believe AND as I formed my own opinion on it. This IS FACT: Mike Millis cursed me up one side and down the other when I questioned him about some difficult subjects last week. He ended the conversation by telling me to F*** off and hanging up the phone. Well, I put in a call to HK, which was not returned. HOWEVER, approx. 30 minutes later or so, I receive a fairly long e-mail from Millis with an apology of sorts. (I still didn't like it.) I sent him back a e-mail and called HK again. No answer for a couple of days and then a call from HK. I have an opinion as to exactly why the last paragraph's events took place as they did. Any way.......... If you note the selling on Monday of this week, I can confess to a little chunk of that. Tuesday I took a break and there was hardly any volume. Wednesday again I took to selling. The trading log shows the activity. Well Thurs. it wasn't me. Friday the last remaining shares I held went up for sale. The price was just NOT there! And on news none the less. Long story short. I sold a vast majority of my CSMA stock. The reason is simple. I do not believe in the current leadership and the way in which they have handled the company. Like I have said many times before, if not for Ad-HaTTeRs, CSMA would not exist! JMHO All the accusations and rumors that have and will surface about CSMA may or may not be true. But I have a few beliefs and rules of thumb I tend to stick to and they apply here. That's all for now. KZAP

To: TraderGreg who wrote (8050)	7/20/1998 12:42:00 AM
From: John Adams	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 11708

Trader Greg says: It's one thing to say: "I BELIEVE, or IN MY OPINION, such and such is occuring" To directly accuse someone of mis-using funds for very specific purposes, without proof, is quite another thing. What are you talking about? Do you know? Are you doing tequila shots while you are reading this thread? I didn't BLAME anyone and certainly not anyone at the company for the pump and dump from the .70's to the current low. I wasn't even suggesting that it was the company's fault. I was just sharing how I felt. I have a pretty good block of this stock and was hoping for some good news back in June, especially with the older Ad-Hatters announcement that they were expecting to exceed analysts expectations by 35%. Then, when nothing came and the stock tanked, I reviewed the data and suspected that maybe some big players did a little pump and dump action. Nothing more and nothing less was thought. Then along comes Trader Greg with his ESP and names names and points fingers. The name isn't dick tracy or mike hammer. As far as I know, trader greg is really trader pump and dump greg and has made a killing hyping this stock to anyone who will listen while taking them to the cleaners. I'm real impressed with how you deal with people who don't share your exact belief. Why don't you want this to be an open forum where all investors can share their thoughts, even if they don't agree with you? Are you a pig headed idiot that only wants to hear what you agree with? If so, then I agree with you - you are a pig headed idiot.