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To: gregor who wrote (293)7/18/1998 1:58:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 638
 
AH, how interesting. I once spent way too much time reading the 8 books written on the life of St. Francis. There are 8 good ones, the rest made up. But, what was so strange was he spent untold hours in the Garden (I always wondered if that inspired the hymn come to the garden alone) praying for forgiveness for his sins.

What sins? Huh? I don't know. Pretty strange, buthe saw them in himself, and it's true, that the closer one is to the light the brighter the tiny imperfections look.

In the darkness you can hide an elephant.

Anyway, I'm on the end of the world kick, here, since it is apparent it is here. I no longer feel that I have to offer apologies for reality. The government is doing a great job of shutting all mouths in the media. Even the weather channel guys have apparently been directed from making frowns and worried comments and now point to the BRIGHT RED AREA OF NINTIES COVERING THE ENTIRE OF AMERICA ALMOST AS "well, it's going to be another nice summer day--summer is here." A few have eye messages of concern, the rest seem to be programmed robots right out of Rollerball.

I suggest all see Rollerball. A 70's classic well buried for excellent reason. I'm surprised the author didn't die unexpectantly in a "freak accident".

When I was in the libraray in CA gathering my doomsday Nature reports, I came upon this. I was as you can imagine so jolted I had to sit down and pray audibly in the Library. People around me of course assumed I was a little off, I'm sure.

I quote from ANNE HERBERT, WHO USED TO BE ASSISTANT EDITOR OF COEVOLUTION QUARTERLY. SHE IS A WRITER AND SOCIAL-CHANGE ACTIVIST LIVING IN BERKELEY.

Obviously not one of us, and I am certain is a Mother Goddess crowd groupie, if anything. However, notice what she wrote upon retiring from the inside of the Ring, so to speak, this science magazine dealing with these exact issues:

HANDY TIPS ON HOW TO BEHAVE AT THE DEATH OF THE WORLD. (pub. Whole Earth REview as a column feature in Spring of l995)

"Sometimes it comes in a dream, and sometimes in one more newspaper headline. And then you know. With your cells, and past and future you know. It's over. We are killing it all and soon it all will be dead. We are here at the death of the world -- killers, witnesses, and those who will die. How then shall we live?"

Janice and Gypsy, if you ever come by here I wish you would feel free to make comments. Maybe you never will, though. Either come by or make comments. Just want you to know.



To: gregor who wrote (293)7/18/1998 6:15:00 PM
From: Gregory D. John  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 638
 
Gregor,

Ha ha... curious that it was the harsh lights of television that revealed the imperfections. There's an old theme in religions that suggest that humans can not look at a god in full glory without being blinded or disintegrated or otherwise destroyed.

In the language of Christianity, I would compare this to the inability of all men to face God because of their sin... unless... their sins are first absolved by Christ.

I wonder how much of these ideas of "perfection" really have their genesis in Greek philosophy. Have you ever read any Aristotle?

I agree that I may be hard to reach. I don't know if it the lack of the man to see truth or the lack of the religion to ring true. I see truth and wisdom in Christianity and other religions. No religion has yet reached me, though. How does that song go... "Whatever will be, will be, the future's not ours to see, que sera sera." But do you remember the question the mother is answering? :-)

There's a few things I've been meaning to ask. Now is as good a time as any. I forget whether I've told you, yet, but, I'll be pretty busy over the next month, so please excuse any tardiness in my reply.
1. Do you express compassion to strangers? Feed the homeless? Do charity work? Do you think such acts are part of being a Christian?
2. What do you do to expand your understanding of Christianity? Do you read books about it? Bible study? This thread?

Greg