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To: Steve Porter who wrote (34778)	7/18/1998 9:16:00 PM
From: Yousef	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572780

Steve, Re: "MOT's second loss was due to the fact that they partnered with IBM and Apple. Niether of whom could do anything right." AND you think that AMD's K5 and manufacturing of the K6 are examples of AMD "doing it right" ?? Steve, please give some examples of AMD, "doing it right" ... please don't include any of their quarterly losses in that list. <ggg> Make It So, Yousef

To: Steve Porter who wrote (34778)	7/18/1998 9:29:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 1572780

Steve - Re: "And this one may just suceed. " Or, judging by historical precedent, it is most likely to fail. AGAIN ! Isn't this a pickle? Just like the OLD CYRIX thread. Everytime AMD posts a humiliating LOSS, all the SI AMD Boosters start clamoring, crying, speculating, and praying for some other sucker company to come along and bail them out of their investment losses! Duh ! Wake up folks ! Just what good did the NSM buy-out of Cyrix do for Cyrix? NOTHING - the losses just got transferred from one company to another ! The only "visible" advantage was to give some of us shareholders a chance to get out of our investments with a quick profit - before reality set in and the losses mounted up with the new, acquiring company - driving that company deeper into the red-zone. Paul

To: Steve Porter who wrote (34778)	7/18/1998 10:43:00 PM
From: Dale J.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572780

Steve, MOT's first loss to Intel was due to the fact that Mot's product was almost ready and Intel's was. Neither product was specifically designed for IBM. Therefore I would have to say that Intel was in the right place at the right time and therefore lucky (since there was no planning, you can't call it skill). True, that got Intel off to a good start, but many have tried to regain control, and Intel has very skillfully fought them off. MOT's second loss was due to the fact that they partnered with IBM and Apple. Niether of whom could do anything right. In addition they took the wrong approach. Yes, but MOT would by fighting Intel on Intel's turf. Intel wrote the book on x86 and they seem to no longer share the x86 book with anyone. IBM it seems would have the best shot at Intel, but they no longer seem interested in the challenge. Dale