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Microcap & Penny Stocks : VLVT (was CSMA) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: David Smith who wrote (8116)	7/19/1998 7:32:00 PM
From: dealmakr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 11708

David, I am glad to see that you are taking an interest in what is going on. There is too much conjecture, inuendo and rumor floating around here. As far as KZAP selling his stock, I believe that everyone has their own risk to reward ratio for making decisions and maybe his current outlook on his investment in CSMA is undergoing revamping. I don't make my own decisions on hype or bashings and if he has placed buy orders in at a lower price that may be what he is willing to base his risk on. Do not take this in the context of me saying that I am agreeing with him or anyone. I just think that the whole point is that a lot of us have seen their investments in this company dwindle. I still agree with the DD done by TG and others about the potential for a good return on investment if the companies story line bears out. I just want to get to the bottom of what this latest BS is all about and I am one of those that are very concerned about their investment here. I would welcome your return to posting on SI if you so desire. If you do consider it a waste of time, that is your decision also. I just want everything to be out in the open and above board for all to consider their own decisions in investing in this company. I hope that CSMA will give me some sort of response to the letter that I have faxed them. I will be basing my own decisions on the tenor of that response. All I am asking for is some honest answers to some hard questions here. Dave

To: David Smith who wrote (8116)	7/19/1998 8:18:00 PM
From: TraderGreg	Respond to of 11708

David--El Diablo is cranking out those snow cones, still no direct accusation with evidence. To all the bashers: Come on now, don't be shy. It's not like I am asking you to take the point at KheSanh here.If you are so sure of your info, post it. Don't worry, Jill won't give out your real names until she gets a subpoena. TG

To: David Smith who wrote (8116)	7/19/1998 8:42:00 PM
From: KZAP	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 11708

ROFLMAO!!! I KNEW THAT WOULD BE POSTED SOON! It is getting close to Monday and as the pressure builds the stops come out! <ggg> I may be accused of a lot of things. But bashing is only one's perspective of the situation. Desperation is quite another. JMHO As can clearly be seen, I have tried to allow all sides to post as they see fit. AND I have posted that each should do what is in their best interests. If you read my posts I have tried to tell MY story and have posted IN MY Humble Opinion many, many times. AND posted other disclaimers along the way also. AND posted for each to make up their own mind. That just because I or anyone else has sold, doesn't mean you or anyone else should. And I will stick by those statements!!! So go ahead. Attack my agenda! What's yours? Oh yeah, I know. Truth, happiness and the American way! <g> Well I want the same thing you do my friend. This is about money. Try and tell me it isn't. FACTS??? I WANT THE FACTS TOO!!! Don't think for one second that I don't! Why do you think I make so many phone calls and send out e-mails and post on the threads? It isn't just for fun. (it is part!)<g> HERE'S a FACT David, TG & everyone else. Mike Millis cussed me, told me to F-off and hung up on me. Ask HK Elrod. If he is honest enough to admit that Millis admitted that to him. FACT: No well has been placed on the well site. FACT: Delay after delay. ON WHAT? Name it. Everything they have ever said they would has been delayed! FACT: Was there a well actually drilled on the Conroe, TX. Lease? NO! That as I read the agreement is a breach of the agreement with Pickens. Do you want the agreement posted? How about the news releases? I have them all! FACT: CSMA told us how valuable the LPS deal was, sent out stock holders letters. NOW, they cancel the deal. And what is the reason? Tell me, can you? AND NOW, it was no big deal right? Right!!! It was a hype job IMHO to get the stock price up! THEY can thank Franco for that!!! Who was selling into that one? I wonder, I have no proof on that one. I still wonder who Franco is/was. YOU wonder too don't you? I guess I am being told that Ad-HaTTeRs is NOT making money? Don't kid yourself. They ARE making money. How much? I don't have that info. BUT, it IS A FACT that CSMA says in their press release that they ARE MAKING MONEY!!! WELL CHECK THIS OUT! I have to prove NOTHING to NO ONE! I'm not a public company! Don't try to take the lime light off the right story here. This is NOT about what KZAP is doing or saying. It is about CSMA and the management!!! BUT If you want to know. YES, I HAVE ORDERS IN! FOR PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR!!! MY ORGINAL INVESTMENT IS HALF WIPED OUT, NOW MY BUY BACK IS PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR!!! IS THAT ALRIGHT WITH YOU? Want to trade places with 'ole KZAP? I don't think so. And anyway, who cares? Am I telling YOU how to trade? You trade/invest your way, I'll do it MY way!!! AND THERE'S MORE!!! I WAS NOT THE ONE WHO STARTED POSTING NEGATIVE POSTINGS!!! I POSTED WHAT I KNEW OR WHAT I HAD AN OPINION ON!!! TG KNOWS I COULD HAVE POSTED ON MONDAY THAT I WAS SELLING, THINK THAT WOULD HAVE "TANKED" THE STOCK PRICE MORE THEN? IF YOU SAID YES TO THAT, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE NOW? The source of MY information is Mike Millis, HK Elrod, Mike Pickens, the LPS group, News Releases put out by CSMA, Yahoo, and other sites that have info on trading of all kinds. Heidi, TG and many & many other investors, some of which do not post on SI and others who have sent me PM's, e-mails called me or vice versa on the phone lines. Is that enough info or what? Who is your sources? Just for curiousity's sake. BTW & FWIW, I AM STILL A CSMA STOCK HOLDER, JUST NOT NEAR AS BIG A HOLDER AS THIS TIME LAST WEEK!!! KZAP