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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (19382)7/23/1998 8:46:00 AM
From: DLL  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621
 
Dear Nancy;

I have never heard anyone here teach the Law. Where does Emile get this myth? He is deceived and a deceiver.

Jhn 12:12 On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem,

Jhn 12:13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed [is] the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Throughout the New Testament the people (Jews) believed in Yeshua. The Jewish leaders did not. I dare say that a greater percentage of Jews living in that day probably believed than do the percentage of Gentiles living today. Emile is mocking himself when he calls Jews antichrist. Who does he think the multitudes that followed him were? They were Jews. The common Jewish man and women believed in Yeshua, they will come back to him again. Emile should open his eyes to the whole counsel of God.

Hsa 3:5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.

In Yeshua's love for you - DLL



To: Alan Markoff who wrote (19382)7/23/1998 9:44:00 AM
From: Emile Vidrine  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 39621
 
" I know how you can call people names and make false accusations as though they are truth for you have done it to many. "

The word antichrist comes from the Word of God and was given to Christians to identify those who oppose Christ and his Church.
I never make false accusation. It only seems that way to you because you reject the Word of God for the traditions of antichrist modern Judaism. You love the "Jewish fables" more than you love the Body of Chirst.
Slander against Christians and Christ started with the antichrist Jewish leaders who rejected Christ and lied against and persecuted the Apostles and disciples. That same spirit of slander against Christians and the Christian Church continues today in modern Talmudiic Judaism and in Zionist Israel, and also in the Markoffs. Your joy and glee at attacking Christians and Christianity is apparent to all ture
The slander of modern Judaism and yourself against Christians is well captured in the Judaism favorite slanderous words such as: KKKer, antisemite, Nazi, etc. etc. Modern Judaism is the mother of all antichrist efforts in the world today. The origin of modern Judaism's hatred and slander against Christ and his Christian people is clearly captured in God's holy Word.

Jewish leaders pay to have others slander Christ.
Matt. 28
11: Now when they were going, behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done.
12: And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they(the Jewish leaders) gave large money unto the soldiers,
13: Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept.

14: And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you.
15: So they took the money, and did as they were taught:and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.

Christian Jews fear the antichrist Jews
John 9
22: These words spake his parents, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had agreed already, that if any man did confess that he was Christ, he should be put out of the synagogue.

John 19
38: And after this Joseph of Arimathaea, being a disciple of Jesus, but secretly for fear of the Jews,
besought Pilate that he might take away the body of Jesus: and Pilate gave him leave. He came
therefore, and took the body of Jesus.

The antichrist Jews at Antioch take counsel (conspire) to murder Paul.
Acts 9
22: But Saul increased the more in strength, and confounded the Jews which dwelt at Damascus, proving that this is very Christ.
23: And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him:

The antichrist Jews encourage Roman authorities to persecute Christian Jews.
Acts 12
3: And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.)

Antichrist Jews contradict and blaspheme the Gospel.
Acts 13
45: But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming.

Antichrist Jews stirr up persecution against Christian disciples.
Acts 13
49: And the word of the Lord was published throughout all the region.
50: But the Jews stirred up the devout and honourable women, and the chief men of the city, and raised persecution against Paul and Barnabas, and expelled them out of their coasts.

The nonbelieving or antichrist Jews stir up the pagan gentiles against Christians.
Chapter: Acts.14
1: And it came to pass in Iconium, that they went both together into the synagogue of the Jews, and so spake, that a great multitude both of the Jews and also of the Greeks believed.
2: But the unbelieving Jews stirred up the Gentiles, and made their minds evil affected against the brethren.

Antichrist Jews excite the pagans to murder Christians.
Acts 14
19: And there came thither certain Jews from Antioch and Iconium, who persuaded the people, and, having stoned Paul, drew him out of the city, supposing he had been dead.

Modern Jews stirr up the pagans against Paul for preaching the Word of God.
Acts 17
13: But when the Jews of Thessalonica had knowledge that the word of God was preached of Paul at Berea, they came thither also, and stirred up the people.

Modern Jews persecute Christain Jews.
Acts 18
12: And when Gallio was the deputy of Achaia, the Jews made insurrection with one accord against Paul, and brought him to the judgment seat,

Antichrist Jews band together to murder a Jew because he accepted and preached Christ.
Acts 23
12: And when it was day, certain of the Jews banded together, and bound themselves under a curse, saying that they would neither eat nor drink till they had killed Paul.

There are many more Scriptures on this subject.

The Lord has clearly captured the antichrist spirit of modern Judaism in his Word. Why would Alan and others on this thread want to exalt this antichrist culture and heritage? Why do they feel an affinity to this culture of darkness and death rather than an affinity to life and light of the Christian Church. Christ and His Christain peopl---the Christain Church---have never persecuted the modern Jewish people; it is modern Judaism that has and continues to persecute Christ and his people.

More important than the question about the Markoffs is the question about the many people who call themselves Chrsitains on thiis thread but deny these Scriptures and hope that they did not exist. It is a strange Christain who denies God's Word and tries to hide God's Word. It is also a strange kind of Christian who calls those who love God's Word and quotes it, haters.



To: Alan Markoff who wrote (19382)7/23/1998 11:17:00 AM
From: O'Hara  Respond to of 39621
 
><>...I first want to thank God and all of you who...><>

came to my defense here. Getting on-line this morning sure was a rude awakening. And to Nancy and Alan I personally apologize for suggesting that you stop arguing with Emile and just let things be. I see now that nothing can stop this very emotionally disturbed individual.

I'm not sure what exactly brought on this evil episode of his, but from experience with him for 2 yrs. I suppose nothing in particular is needed for him to just completely loose all sight of anything and everything that is of God.

His waywardness goes back (at least on this thread) for over 2 yrs.and I would suppose that his off-line living is no better. from his very beginnings on this thread he has done more to divide the brethren than any other soul I have ever encountered in my entire life.

Even after he was exposed for his anti-semiteness, even after his stony heart was revealed, and even after he attacked me from behind, I still made a conscious decision to openly defend him against the verbal attacks from non-Christians. I felt sorry for him.

I mistakenly thought way back then, that he was a brother in the Lord who just had some misconceptions about the Jews and many other things of God. It soon became very apparent that he was no brother, although he calls himself a Christian. When I finally realized just how wickedly relentless he was, I made a conscious choice to avoid him at all costs.

His doctrine and his thought process are inexcusably dangerous, and I soon realized that anyone and everyone that became engaged in conversation with him became his unsuspecting victim.

Now even his most loyal friend poor David Fisk has been trapped by emile. He even now after David still professes love to emile, emile chose to use David's love as a weapon against him.

Before his attack on David this morning, David was the only one on this thread who had not suffered at the hands of Emile, aside from 1 maybe 2 others. But I believe they, if they stay around long enough, also become his victim. He has no loyalty to anyone, not even God. His loyalties are to a brotherhood whose charter (doctrine) falls way outside the loving word of God.

Come on can't you guys see where he is coming from? I was deceived too in the beginning, but soon after seeing the suffering and discord that he caused by his hateful words, I knew in my heart of hearts that he was not dealing with a full Bible. His spirit is easily discernable. Sure he can talk the things of God and he knows the scriptures and he can even mouth off the saying of our Lord Jesus Christ, but so can thousands of others. He can even talk a good talk on the saving grace of our Lord Jesus. And sure he knows all of the history of the church fathers, you bet he does, and he has also done a very in depth study of Jews around the world, not to mention every other belief system in the universe, religious or otherwise. And he has used all this knowledge to further his own agenda. He has never used it for the glory and or love of God.

And again to Nancy, she had been trying to tell everyone here that the wicked gunman that shot at her and her children, intending to murder her,just because she is a Jew, he didn't care one bit that she was a Jew whose Lord and Saviour is Jesus Christ...He also called himself a Christian, a Christian! A follower of our Lord Jesus! Imagine that. Well it is not very hard at all to imagine. We hear/see/and read about things like that everyday.

The KKK also call themselves Christians, along with many other wickedly evil groups. Sometime last year there was an expo'se done on a group called "The Order, they are a fractured group of the KKK who have a quite a following. There mission is to wipe out the entire world population of Jews. They say that it is their calling and orders from God Himself. They are a hatefilled group of dangerous racists who say they can tolerate, if they have to, all people of color. They say though, that all they want to do with them is to send them all back to their native country. But the Jews they must murder.

They say that all modern Jews are directly descended from satan himself, literally. They say that they are not only doing the world a favor by wiping them out, but that it is an order from God, and they must obey God. They too also know all of church history. They too quote the Bible as good or better than many Christians. They too talk of the saving grace of our Lord Jesus Christ..........The only requirements to being a member of this group is that you:
1.must be white
And
2.you swear allegiance to the Son of God...Jesus Christ.

They begin every meeting at a makeshift altar adorned with a huge cross, and an open Bible under a spotlight. They even say a very humble prayer of love and glory to God. After the murder of innocent Jews and anyone who may get in their way, they Thank God for the opportunity. They make no excuses, or apologies for their wickedness and unGodly ways......they say they are under the orders of God.

This country/world is plagued with groups and organizations that call themselves Christians, and commit their atrocities in the name of our Saviour Jesus Christ!...They preach another gospel, they follow another Jesus. They are not my brethren!

I have indeed in the past posted some unkind words, which I won't even attempt to justify. I have sincerely repented of those, and even openly apologized personally to some.

Emile is a different breed, what I have posted to him was rebuke in truth. He exposed himself, he revealed his own heart,his own words judged him, I did not. I only called it as it was in hopes of putting a stop to his evilness. And that was after I spoke with him in a private email first. I conducted myself according to the word of God in my attempts to help him. He is ruthless! His unyielding hatred for everyone and everything that does not line up with his wicked ungodly belief system will be his final demise, unless of course he turns form his wicked ways.

Again I want to sincerely thank all of you who have come to my defense, and dear God I want to also whole heartedly extend another apology to Nancy and Alan. I was wrong to think that by asking you to cease from arguing with Emile that he would just go away...It is certainly clear that his will to be hateful supercedes his will to be in the will of our most loving and merciful Father .

His hatefilled post was no parody, he is a liar.! It was just his usual hateful way. He intended to do such so that he could do the evil that he did...he intended to trap someone into rebuking him..(he even had the evil gall to say he did)....in order that he could use their own words of rebuke against them! And he found his victim in David Fisk, a most loving and gentle soul. He most likely wished it would have been Mark or Nancy or Don, but since it wansn't David would do just as well. A victim is a victim in his warped mind.

And David my loving brother, I am so saddened by the way emile trapped you and then rebuked you in lies, just because you came to my defense.He again exposed himself. He waits hanging in the trees as do venomous snakes. I truly am sorry for what you received from him.

Nancy and Alan, I am sorry for the crime that emile has committed against you. I had no right to (now I know)... I just wanted peace, as I am sure you and many other did, and I mistakenly very mistakenly,thought silence to him was the way to go....I was wrong, Please forgive me.I don't know what else to say.

May God be with us all
Shalom...><>