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To: Joe Waynick who wrote (61)7/25/1998 12:32:00 PM
From: gordon m.  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 355
 
Hi Joe,

re. " Reduced-Risk Trading "

Sounds like you have an interesting strategy here.

I would like to follow up on your results, and especially your
one trade home runner strategy !

Good luck.

Gord.



To: Joe Waynick who wrote (61)7/25/1998 5:50:00 PM
From: grenouille  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 355
 
Joe,

Thanks for the excerpt on combinations. I guess am in the middle of a long combination involving ORCL. Until I read the excerpt you posted, I didn't realize that it had a name. I'll have to get that book. McMillan's references to combinations seem to involve only short positions.

ORCL has been trading between $20 and $30 all year. For most of that time, it has moved between $23 and $27. On 7/20 ORCL closed at $27.56 after about four days of relatively flat sideways activity. Stochastic curves were at about 90, a high unseen since April 1, with the fast curve flattening. Prices touched the upper BB on 7/17 and 7/18, and had been moving sideways away from the band since. RS was around 70 and flattening. Volume had been moderate. These things, along with overall market sentiment, led me to believe that ORCL was likely to decline in price near-term.

The recent upward price movement in the stock had caused the Aug 25 puts to be quite reasonably priced. So, on 7/21 I bought 10 Aug 25 puts @ 3/8.

Sure enough, after a bit of a bump on 7/21 (unconfirmed by RS or volume), the price began to decline.

On 7/23, as the price declined further, the Aug 30 calls became available for 3/16, so I bought 10 of those.

On 7/24, intraday, the price pierced the lower BB declining as far as $24 and, although the RS was still well above 50 (but declining), and glancing at the historical chart showed no support until around 23, the fact that I could get about $1.5 to $1.625 for my puts and that we had pierced the lower BB led me sell my puts @ $1.5. Not a bad 3-day return.

Now we'll see what happens to the calls. If ORCL performs as it has, I may be able to pump it for quite a bit!!

-Bob W



To: Joe Waynick who wrote (61)7/26/1998 1:37:00 PM
From: Joe Waynick  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 355
 
ONSL may turn ugly!

Some interesting developments have occurred with this stock that should have been foreseen during the research phase of this play. I'm going to step you through my thought process so you understand how I handle the situation. If anyone has another perspective, please let me know, (hopefully before Monday). Perhaps you have an alternative I may have missed.

THE BAD NEWS: It appears that I may have stumbled on this one. I failed to consider a crucial bit of information in my analysis, and that is I opened the position too close to an earnings announcement. I believe this particular stock will be susceptible to a sharp move up or down depending on earnings on Tuesday. That is exactly what I don't want! Remember, the strategy is to play the channel for at least three trades to get all my option money off the table and trade risk free for as long as possible. With a sharp move in the price, this position could very well abort next week.

THE GOOD NEWS: My only loss will be an "opportunity loss" and not a loss of capital! That's the beauty of this strategy, in this situation, a single trade is enough to return a decent realized profit. I can easily make a "no brainer" 13% profit for the 20 days I've held this position. (My original post on Reduced-Risk Trading indicated I opened the position on 07/14/1998, which is incorrect. I actually opened the position on 07/09/1998. Sorry for the confusion.)

REVIEW OF FUNDAMENTALS

QTRLY
EARNINGS:

1995 -0.030
1996 +0.025
1997 -0.130
1998 -0.220 (YTD)

ONSL revenues the past four quarters (JUN '97 - MAR '98), have steadily increased from 12.3M to 40.2M with a net loss of 4.2M vs. a year ago income of $52k.

ONSL earnings for the past four quarters (JUN '97 - MAR '98), has been -0.01, -0.03, -0.09, and -0.22 per share respectively. Six analysts rate the stock a strong buy. Four others rate it a buy. Yet, short interest continues to climb. Check out the stats:

------------------------------ Average
Month- Shares Short-- Daily Volume
------------------------------------
06/98---- 2,783,723--- 467,038
05/98---- 2,478,917--- 871,086
04/98---- 1,296,288--- 414,134
03/98---- 1,343,578--- 636,472

With ONSL closing on Friday at 26.625, it sits at the lower end of the upper third of the BB with an RSI of 55. At this point, it's extremely difficult to predict a direction, although the indicators point to a little more upward movement and then a pullback. The only other clue is the sharp drop in price after the last negative earnings announcement back in April. It then leveled off and entered the channel it currently occupies.

Clearly, a true speculator would bet the averages and hedge on the upside since there's no evidence of any fundamental change in the downward direction of the stock. Except for a revenue and earnings suprize, the smart money seems to be betting on more negative earnings.

With poor earnings, the stock could tank or move into a lower channel of $19 or $20 - $25 - $26. With improved or blowout earnings, I would look for new support around $30. The new channel wouldn't be so bad, the position could still handle that. Dropping below $20 or popping to $30 would abort the play.

What's a poor skittish trader like me going to do?

PLAN THE TRADE AND TRADE THE PLAN

The plan calls for the stock to move between 24.50 and 28.50 every 10 - 15 days. So by Friday I would have normally expected to cover my short and go long again, completing one cycle and my second trade. However, with a major event (earnings announcement) next week, it throws a monkey wrench into the works.

The strategy is not looking for a big score by market timing sharp moves in the stock. It's looking to play the range on stocks with a predictable swing between two prices. If the stock misbehaves, then I abort with a small profit. It is times like this that greed struggles with trading discipline and traders shoot for the pot of gold in one big grab. Unfortunately, they usually lose big and get knocked out of the game.

The idea behind my version of Reduced-Risk Trading is not to win big on every trade but to simply NOT LOSE big on any trades! Taking small profits when things go wrong and working well behaved stocks for maximum profit will generate tremendous results. Let the losers go and stick with the winners.

Therefore, the next step is simple. Cover the short with my GTC order at $24.50 as planned if it dips prior to the Tuesday announcement. Cancel the GTC long order until after the announcement and I know the direction of the stock for potential "sideshow" plays. Here are the possible scenarios:

LOW EARNINGS-------------------HIGH EARNINGS
STOCK @ $20
----------------------STOCK @ $30


(11.75)---- Option Investment---- (11.75)
2.00------- Long Call Value----------- 9.00
9.00------- Long Put Value------------ 2.00
4.00------- First Trade------------------ 4.00
4.00------- Second Trade-------------- 4.00
7.25------- Profit------------------------- 7.25

The value of the straddle should be at least $11 no matter which way the stock goes since it's only 20 days old in a 6-month life. If the stock doesn't dip prior to the earnings announcement and they report blowout numbers, then subtract $4 off the right column for a profit of 3.25. If it doesn't dip and they report negative, then add $4 to the left column, assuming I end the play at $20.

UPSIDE POTENTIAL: The bottom line worst case scenario to the upside with one trade is a 20 day profit of $3,250, (13% on a $25k drawdown, or 237% annualized). With two trades its $7,250, (29% on a $25k drawdown, or 529% annualized). Both potentials will be realized if I close all positions at $30 and I don't buy the stock on the way up (greed?)

DOWNSIDE POTENTIAL: The bottom line worst case scenario to the downside with one trade would be $11,250, (45% on a $25k drawdown, or 821% annualized). With two trades it's a more sure $7,250, (29% on a $25k drawdown, or 529% annualized). Both potentials will be realized if I close all positions at $20 and I don't let them ride down for further profits (greed?)

Now my job is to locate another RRT stock to trade. I have several in mind and I'll let everyone know when the analysis is done. You can also be sure there'll be at least two months before the next earnings announcement!

Any comments anyone? Herm? Doug? Greg? Others?



To: Joe Waynick who wrote (61)7/27/1998 9:05:00 AM
From: Jan Ravi  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 355
 
Would you consider CYCH for your next stock to play options on?



To: Joe Waynick who wrote (61)7/27/1998 7:32:00 PM
From: Markas  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 355
 
Hi Joe. Interesting strategy. I've been dabbling in options for the past 18 months, trying to learn as much as possible. I've looked at you ONSL strategy and am intrigued, but was wondering how you would find it superior to going long stock, selling the Dec25 or 30 calls, then stepping into a protective Sep20 or 22.5 long put position after a 2-4 pt run up and subsequently trading in and out of your put position for profit.
I would find it hard to shell out $11 in option premium just to be able to trade a stock risk free after 3 successful trades. I believe you are assuming you make the full 4$ per trade(28.50-24.50). In my suggestion above, you would immediately put premium in your pocket, hedge your stock position to the tune of $3-4 per share, and if you are right about the $4 trading range, start making profit trading in and out of puts with a much higher percentage profit than trading the stock for a $4/share profit.
Please understand that I'm not trying to be contentious or disparaging, just trying to understand the risk/reward or your strategy versus the one that first comes to my mind.
Thanks in advance for any response.



To: Joe Waynick who wrote (61)7/29/1998 8:59:00 AM
From: Joe Waynick  Respond to of 355
 
ONSL UPDATE!

ONSL earnings came in at -.21 per share. That's +.01 better than last quarter, -.01 worse than estimates, and -.20 worse than last year. OTOH, sales increased a whopping 170%. Stk closed yesterday at 26.625. DOW down 200 points at one point and ONSL dipped to a low of 25! Darn!!! It would have been nice to grab that 2nd trade and lock in 7k.

CFO said on CNBC this morning that ONSL is experiencing growing pains and that they are on target. He did a good job putting a positive spin on the company.

There still is no clear indication on the direction of the stk. It's sitting right in the middle of the BB/RSI indicators. As I said in a previous post, I've cancelled the buy-to-cover at @ 24.50 to "wait and see." I will get out with a profit either way and will hold on to my straddle as long as the value remains above $11. Waiting as long as possible will give the market time to decide how it will treat this stk.

If the stk remains flat for a few days, I'll enter the buy-to-cover again and wait it out.



To: Joe Waynick who wrote (61)7/30/1998 10:02:00 AM
From: Joe Waynick  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 355
 
ONSL UPDATE!

I seem to have contradicted myself. In yesterday's post, I indicated I would cancel the buy to cover at 24.50 to "wait and see." That is contrary to the strategy. Therefore, after making that post, I did not cancel the order and I covered ONSL yesterday at 24.50, for my second trade. However, I have not gone long again.

At this point, I can exit with a $6.5k profit. As of the close yesterday, the straddle is worth exactly $10.25. With more volatility today, the value of the straddle could easily slip below $10.

Here is the situation as it applies to this strategy:

1) ONSL missed earnings early in the strategy jeopardizing the channel
2) The value of the protective straddle has fallen below $11
3) The stk moved into a lower channel after missing earnings in April

The name of this game is safety, and this situation has developed too much risk for me. It's time to step out of this trade. Today, I'm entering a sell order for the long call @ 5.125. Since the technical indicators for this stock are negative, I will enter a sell order for the long put @ 7.375 for additional profit.



To: Joe Waynick who wrote (61)7/31/1998 7:00:00 AM
From: Joe Waynick  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 355
 
ONSL - FINAL UPDATE!

Here's a good example of where traders let their emotions win over trading discipline. Clearly, I did not trade the plan.

With the release of poor earnings, I tried to anticipate the direction of the stock. Then CNBC started predicting a bear market after the 200 drop in the DOW. The threads were buzzing with sell-off predictions, it just went on and on . . .

I lost sight of the essence of the plan: a systematic trading system based on a mathematical model that ignores all of the "noise" of the market. Trade the swings religiously and exit only when the stk breaks out of the channel. The straddle protects the upside and downside.

Rather than make a bad decision worse, I'm going to exit my put position today between $4.625 and $5. At $4.625, I will have a $5.27k profit. That's a 21% return since 07/09/98 - a 22 day hold, (348% annualized).

If ONSL retreats from it's rally and continues it channel, or establishes a new one, I'll consider getting back in. Otherwise, I'll collect my profit and be happy for now.