From TMF re: VC valuations.
Subject: Re: Financial Spreadsheet Number: of 5150 Author: ManishAurora no profile | no interview Date: 7/25/98 4:08 PM (ET)
Any firm that has been in existence 3 years, and has shown as consistent a set of financial performance as Amazon, can be modeled. If is a fallacy to believe you can set a $6 billion value on a firm without financial modeling. This is economic nonsense. Sorry to put it that harshly. We are talking about money. And amounts this size are not committed without a sense for future cash flows. If things are as uncertain as they are with Amazon, THE DISCOUNT RATE RISES. And you know what would happen to Amazon if the discount rate was set to create 30% (VC) returns? The stock would be worth $3. At 14% expected returns (8.5% over 10 year treasury) pretty reasonable, the stock is worth $30 with optimistic revenue projections. Even at these levels of projections, 'executive bandwidth' is an issue. Beyond these numbers, expectations become irrational. A corollary to this argument is that a lot of smaller firms in the same business should be private.
Something else of interest is the price based on price to revenue. Given that stable net margins in this business are below 5%, the price to revenue is likely to stabilize below 1. Think hard about this one. Think until it hurts to think any more. TMF claims 15x revenues is a good price. I think less than 2.5x currently is. To deserve 15x, they would need 30% net margins, the domain of MSFT, an software monopoly. When do you expect that to happen for AMZN?
Cute article:
The Bore vs. the Bimbo
TECHNOLOGY HEADLINES
"Sometimes I feel like we were real schmucks for building our company the way we did." - Jeremy Jaech, Visio Corp.
Appearance, not performance, woos technology investors. (Michael Dougan/Special to ABCNEWS.com)
Special to ABCNEWS.com Imagine, if you will, the following midlife-crisis scenario: A man has enjoyed an uncommonly fulfilling and productive marriage for 25 years or so, growing, in concert with his wife, an impressive family, household and retirement nest egg. They have been particularly prudent with their savings, investing cautiously in proven companies on the premise that they were laying a reliable financial foundation for their sunset years. Just as they are looking forward to reaping the rewards of their life's work, preparing for the arrival of grandchildren and years of well-earned leisure time together, he abruptly abandons her for a gorgeous young creature who has bewitched him.
Now imagine this twist: The trophy wife has so completely worked her wiles on her new husband that she gets him to agree to throw away everything in his life for her and turn over his wealth to her simply because she has promised him that someday in the distant future, if everything works out perfectly, they might have sex. Persuaded of the truth of that promise in the face of abundant evidence to the contrary, the man ruins himself financially, gets nothing-sexual or otherwise-in return, and dies bankrupt, alone and forlorn. As various software and Internet companies have been issuing their quarterly earnings reports over the past few days, it has been nearly impossible not to think of the nation's shareholders as ruinously bewitched husbands, companies making real products and turning real profits as abandoned old wives and Internet companies as wily bimbos with nothing to offer but their allure.
Two Companies, Two Paths Surely American shareholders are caught up in this kind of collective midlife-crisis epidemic. How else can you explain the comparative-and illustrative-fates of two Seattle companies, headquartered only four blocks apart, who have gone in nearly opposite directions since issuing stock to the public? The first-Visio Corp.-was founded in 1990 by Jeremy Jaech, one of the co-founders of the phenomenally successful Aldus Corp. The company went public in 1995, its stock trading at $6 per share (if you adjust for a subsequent stock split). The stock has risen slowly in the last three years and has remained in the low 40s for the past several months. The other-Amazon.com-went public one year ago at $12 per share and saw its value increase 12-fold in 12 months. Its market capitalization is $6.4 billion-more than the combined capitalization of its two rivals, Borders and Barnes & Noble, both of which have real stores, real inventories, real assets and real profits. For the past three months, it has astronomically outperformed every other company on the stock market.
Check Out These Measurements To look at the comparative valuation of Amazon.com and Visio, you would think that the former was a profit machine even more prolific than Microsoft, and that the latter was barely breaking even. But Visio has consistently outperformed Amazon.com in every respect but at the gaming tables. Visio has turned in 13 straight quarters of earnings and profit growth, while Amazon has lost more money each quarter even as its revenues have risen. Visio has steadily increased its net revenue per sale while Amazon has rapidly increased its net loss per sale. The latest quarterly numbers for Visio? Revenues of $39.64 million, up from $23.5 million at last year's corresponding quarter; net profit of $8.9 million, up from $5.9 million a year ago; and $.28 per share in earnings, up from $.18. Amazon.com, meanwhile, turned in quarterly sales of $116 million, losses of $21.2 million-or $.44 per share-and isn't expected to post an annual profit until 2001.
Working Without a Net I ran into Visio's Jaech a few days ago and asked him what he thought of all this. "Sometimes I feel like we were real schmucks for building our company the way we did," Jaech said with a laugh. "It seems hilarious now that I told people here that I wanted to have at least four and maybe as many as six quarters showing a trend toward profitability before we went public." Looking back now, Jaech can see that the Net hysteria was building as early as 1995, when Visio was preparing to go public. Going through his presentation to a broker, laboriously showing how the Visio product line-graphics and diagramming tools for the Windows environment-was gobbling up market share and building steadily toward becoming a de facto standard, Jaech saw the broker's eyes glaze over. Finally, the man interrupted with a question: "Aren't you guys really an Internet company?" The question stopped Jaech in his tracks. "I felt like saying, `No.we're just a boring company that sells real products to real customers for real profit.'" Not the sort of enterprise, apparently, that will get investors hot these days-when a hallucinator's promises count for more than a visionary's profits.
Fred Moody is author of I Sing the Body Electronic: A Year With Microsoft on the Multimedia Frontier. His next book, The Visionary Position, is to be published in February 1999 by Random House. |