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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Rambi who wrote (23901)	7/25/1998 11:51:00 PM
From: Grainne	Respond to of 108807

Ah, gee, Penni, you are asking questions that are difficult to answer on a Saturday night. Word of the realities of life this summer in Dallas are on the front page, here, however, and I thought of you and what I bet is a really beautiful bit of landscaping, the sight of which usually gives you pleasure and peace, withering and dying in the burning, dusty sudden change of life as we know its familiar patterns on our planet. I'd say it is an excellent time to invest in cool, coastal real estate almost anywhere, but on cliffs overlooking the sea rather than on the beach, since sea level is changing as well. This house I have had my eye on for the last six months in Ireland really needs to be landscaped--I would plant a lot of hydrangeas and nasturtium, and a huge number of blackberry bushes at the edges of the property, so no one would bother me, and maybe paint the house pale pink. It is obviously overpriced at a hundred thousand pounds, or it would have sold already: iavi.ie Of course, I would just tolerate the house, because this is the view I dream of having forever, and will put up with quite a bit to get it: iavi.ie I think I'd better get something alcoholic to drink. Ah, back, that's better. I knew nothing of Ravel's life, but you did not say anything surprising. There is a melancholy tone in music which usually attracts me. Perhaps one of the things I dislike about symphonies booming and rattling is their sheer optimism at making such a big and definitive noise. Isn't a bolero a very short jacket over a sleeveless dress, incidentally? Three sips of Russian bourbon and I am totally lost. We were discussing music, not fashion, right? I am not an expert on Joseph Campbell, but what I did pick up about transcending mortality from him is that we are all seeking the MEANING OF LIFE. That meaning can symbolically include eternal life, but on a higher plane resides within us, yes? At least that is what I got from his PBS interviews with Bill Moyers. Must life continue if our spirits are full within ourselves? Is the search for signs of eternity based on the difficulties we have in saying goodbye? On regrets about what we missed, or wrong turns we made as we reflect on our lives near their end? Fear of the unknown? I have difficulty with your feeling like part of the negativity around here. Your posts are usually honest but kind at the same time. Your energy is soothing and sometimes maternal, in a nice way, not an old lady way. I was reared in a very intellectual environment, where dissent was welcomed. Now I live in the one of the most liberal places on earth, where everyone truly does celebrate their diversity, although I know it must be a hackneyed phrase when you are on the outside looking in. I have always hoped that the Feelings thread is a little like that, as well. As long as we are all talking to each other, I always hope that the exposure to different views will bring us all to a larger understanding of the life experience.

To: Rambi who wrote (23901)	7/26/1998 3:13:00 AM
From: Krowbar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

miss penni and George, "Can't we just let it be?" The reason that I am not willing to "just let it be" is that I am not willing to let stand the censorship of evolution in our textbooks, the intrusion of Christians in the right of women to choose abortion or not, the attempt by Christians to impose coerced prayer in our public schools and other public institutions, including courtrooms, and the constant references that non-Christians are somehow immoral, for starters. Add to that all of the reasons cited by Sam in his excellent posts today. As I have said before, I refuse to remain silent while these things are going on. To remain silent is to acquiesce and concede to the mythologists. I am not willing to do that. During the time when Christians justified slavery with Bible quotes would you have also said "Can't we just let it be?" The Christian wrong is now trying to turn this country into a theocracy. I'm not just going to "let it be". In any other public forum Sam and I would be shouted down. Praise be the Internet! Del