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Technology Stocks : Discuss Year 2000 Issues -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: John Mansfield who wrote (2290)	7/27/1998 1:13:00 PM
From: John Mansfield	Respond to of 9818

' ..OK, I read more of the thread... here's the deal... anyone wading into c.s.y2k copping an attitude, gets the treatment. Copping an attitude is saying: 1. "You gotta prove it to me, I have the big brain." 2. "This is hype, I said so; it's true, because I didn't see Halleys Comet, more hype." 3. "I'm clueless but doubtful, do my research for me." 4. "I saw a PeeCee once, my brother knows a programmer and he says this ain't a big deal, so I'm calling you on it." Here are the known facts: 1. Most systems have a date flaw in them. Large complex systems certainly have a problem. Large enterprises depend upon multiple large complex systems. 2. Some enterprises started early, years ago; spent a fortune, alternately whipped their geeks and kissed them; they're not done. These include BankBoston, Fidelity Investments... I know of others. They might make it, then again, they might not. Do you feel lucky today... well do you, punk? 3. Most enterprises didn't start until sometime this year. GM, BankAmerica may fall in this category. It is unlikely that anyone starting in 1998 will complete remediation, testing, in time. 4. Some enterprises are yet to start, the U.S. IRS and DoD may fall into this category. Maybe, maybe not but the DoD's Inspector General raked the DoD over the coals for falsifying compliance reports. This is what we in the c.s.y2k call a bad sign. You may interpret it otherwise... most of us are not encouraged by stunts like that. 5. Fix on failure doesn't work. If you could fix a mission critical enterprise wide system in the first 2 months of 2000, fix it before your creditor's lawyers tear you to pieces, why don't you fix it now... this weekend, this month, and slide into Y2K smooth... like a masamune katana into torso. 6. We've had indepth discussions on specific areas, Telcos, Rail shipment, ICBM launch controls, Elevators, Nuclear Power Plants, Unix. Invariably, the initial discussion is back and forth, with the "No Problems Here" crowd submitting convincing arguments. In all cases (except maybe Firetrucks), the debate has fizzled out when specific, unsolved flaws are reported. A good example is Telco's. We're in the last stages of the Telco debate, the "No Problems Here" crowd are now reporting that Telco Switch vendors have announced products with Y2K fixes, due in 3-6 months... any day.... real soon... trust us.... Based on the evidence.... nothing will work. We doomed.... run, run Dogbert, run for your life. ..but optimistic FOOL that I am, I'm hoping that something will be done in the next 523 days. Summary - At this point, there is no debate. The systems will fail and civilization will collapse... The only question on the floor is: Will enough be done to fix enough of the essential systems to prevent complete collapse? Oh, by the way, Al Gore says that the Federal Government will be done by March 1999. cory hamasaki 523 days. ____ From: kiyoinc@ibm.XOUT.net (cory hamasaki) Subject: Re: Y2K CHALLENGE ----- CALL FOR REFERENCES, DEVELOPMENT OF "FAQ"