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To: Sam Ferguson who wrote (19656)7/26/1998 7:41:00 PM
From: IN_GOD_I_TRUST  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
If you knew what I went through, the learning, the years of studying and the praying to seek the truth I did, you would never say this.

But I forgot, you defined your own rules and religion, and I don't fit into it! So you don't like it. Well thank God I don't!

Consider this my last post to you, until you are courageous enough to answer my questions. Otherwise, have a good life now, because in your eternal one, you're going to have BIG problems!

God Bless You,
Steve



To: Sam Ferguson who wrote (19656)7/26/1998 8:01:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Put a little time in educating yourself.
Ignorance is the accepting myths as facts.


Well said Sam, but sadly you refuse to take the excellent advice
you give others.

By faith, you choose the to accept the myths, fables and hearsay opinions
of men far removed from the life of Jesus over the eyewitness accounts
of the men and women who personally saw and heard the miracles, life,
Crucifixion, and Resurrection of Jesus and recorded them in the
New Testament. Many of these men solidly established the integrity
of their position by sacrificing their lives rather than renounce
their eyewitness testimony.

Your irrationality and lack of discernment would disqualify you from
juror duty in most courts, but you continue to seek an audience with
honest and reasonable men.

Look carefully at what you present as your evidence. There is not one
credible historical document, only conjecture and opionion by men
far removed from the first century.
When men give opinons about historical events, you accepts thems as
valid documents.

Like I said before, you are a spiritual and intellectual cripple trying
to convince others of the great advantages of amputating the two legs
of their souls---their intellectual and spiritual discernemt.



To: Sam Ferguson who wrote (19656)7/26/1998 8:22:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine  Respond to of 39621
 
Put a little time in educating yourself.
Ignorance is the accepting myths as facts.


Well said Sam, but sadly you refuse to take the excellent advice
you give others.

By faith, you choose the to accept the myths, fables and hearsay opinions
of men far removed from the life of Jesus over the eyewitness accounts
of the men and women who personally saw and heard the miracles, life,
Crucifixion, and Resurrection of Jesus and recorded them in the
New Testament. Many of these men solidly established the integrity
of their position by sacrificing their lives rather than renounce
their eyewitness testimony.

Your irrationality and lack of discernment would disqualify you from
juror duty in most courts, but you continue to seek an audience with
honest and reasonable men.

Look carefully at what you present as your evidence. There is not one
credible historical document, only conjecture and opionion by men
far removed from the first century.
When men tickle your ears and give their opinons about the historical
events about Jesus's life, you immediately accept these opinions
as if they were valid historical documents.

Like I said before, you are a spiritual and intellectual cripple trying
to convince others of the great advantages of amputating the two legs
of their souls---intellectual and spiritual discernemt--becasue you find
it pleasurable to have blind faith. That is prescisely what your
beliefs are, blind faith based by fables and myths invented in mens
minds.

You base your faith on myths and fables, Christians on real historical
events.

Let me give you two quotes from some of these eyewitnesses:

2Pet.1
13: Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting
you in remembrance;

14: Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus
Christ hath shewed me.

15: Moreover I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease to have these
things always in remembrance.

16: For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known
unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of
his majesty.


17: For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came
such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I
am well pleased.

18: And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him
in the holy mount.


19: We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye
take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the
day star arise in your hearts:

Second eyewitness quote:

Chapter: 1John.1

1: That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen
with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the
Word of life;


2: (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew
unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto
us;)

3: That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may
have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son
Jesus Christ.

4: And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

5: This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that
God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

6: If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not
the truth:

7: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another,
and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

8: If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Remember, these simple fishermen would rather die than renounce
their simple eyewitness accounts.

Think about.
-----------------------------------------------

This is from the mouths of men and women who new Jesus personally.
They lived 2000 years ago with Jesus.

Compare that to the men who are give you your myths and fables.
Your sources are mostly living in the ninteenth and twentiety century
a give their opinions and conjecture because they have no valid
historical documents to counter the factual eyewitness accounts in
the New Testament.

Your faith is based on irrationality and a lack of reasoning.



To: Sam Ferguson who wrote (19656)7/27/1998 12:10:00 AM
From: Barnabus  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Well Sam is still in the land of the living
And lots of bedevilment he is still giving
But rest assured
You can be cured
And make the demons of hell go away quivering

A fine daughter that is a preacher's wife
A fine son-in-law that cause's Satan strife
Why doesn't "Daddy repent"
Jesus was heaven-sent
To clean your slate and give you HIS eternal life

Your trust in an "experience" outside of God's Word
Is a "leap of faith" that is totally absurd
Experiential evidence
Makes no sense
It's the WORD OF GOD that will get your soul "stirred"

Bless your heart Sam, you've had it tough
Losing ones legs is more than rough
But let it be said
You're alive, not dead
And beneath your outward exterior, you're not gruff

Satan's beguilement is "hath God said?"
Making God a liar is his watershed
But Satan is the liar
He's out to conspire
And comes as an "angel of light" instead

I'm praying for you Sam.

Old Man Barney



To: Sam Ferguson who wrote (19656)7/27/1998 12:15:00 AM
From: Barnabus  Respond to of 39621
 
Well Sam is still in the land of the living
And lots of bedevilment he is still giving
But rest assured
You can be cured
And make the demons of hell go away quivering

A fine daughter that is a preacher's wife
A fine son-in-law that cause's Satan strife
Why doesn't "Daddy repent"
Jesus was heaven-sent
To clean your slate and give you HIS eternal life

Yourt trust in an "experience" outside of God's Word
Is a "leap of faith" that is totally absurd
Experiential evidence
Makes no sense
It's the WORD OF GOD that will get your soul "stirred"

Bless your heart Sam, you've had it tough
Losing ones legs is more than rough
But let it be said
You're alive, not dead
And beneath your outward exterior, you're not gruff

Satan's beguilement is "hath God said?"
Making God a liar is his watershed
But Satan is the liar
He's out to conspire
And comes as an "angel of light" instead

I'm praying for you Sam.

OId Man Barney



To: Sam Ferguson who wrote (19656)7/27/1998 12:48:00 AM
From: Chris land  Respond to of 39621
 
The poor, carnal, ignorant world miss of heaven, even because they love their sins, and cannot part with them: "Men love darkness rather than light, because their deeds be evil," John 3. The poor ignorant world miss of heaven, because they are enemies in their minds to God, his word, and holiness; they must be all damned who take pleasure in unrighteousness, 2 Thess 10-12. The poor ignorant world miss of heaven, because they stop their ears against convictions, and refuse to come when God calls: "Because I have called, and ye refused, I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded, but have set at nought all my counsels,and would none of my reproofs; I also will laugh at your calamities, and mock when your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction like a whirlwind, when distress an anguish cometh upon you; then shall you call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but shall not find me," Proverbs. -The Strait Gate



To: Sam Ferguson who wrote (19656)7/27/1998 12:54:00 AM
From: Chris land  Respond to of 39621
 
The poor ignorant world miss of heaven, because the god of this world hath blinded their eyes, that they can neither see the evil and damnable state they are in at present, nor the way to get out of it: neither do they see the beauty of Jesus Christ, nor how willing he is to save poor sinners, 2 Cor.

The poor ignorant world miss of heaven, because they put off and defer coming to Christ, until the time of God's patience and grace is over. Some indeed are resolved never ot come; but some again say, We will come hereafter, and so it comes to pass, that because God called, and they did not hear: so they shall cry, and I will not hear, saith the Lord. -Zech 8 11-13 -The Strait Gate



To: Sam Ferguson who wrote (19656)7/27/1998 1:08:00 AM
From: Chris land  Respond to of 39621
 
The poor ignorant world miss of heaven, because they have false apprehensions of God's mercy. They say in their hearts, We shall have peace, though we walk in the imagination of our heart, to add drunkenness to thirst. but what saith the word? The Lord will not spare him; but then the anger of the Lord, and his jealousy, shall smoke against the man, and all the curses that are written in this book shall be upon him, and God shall blot out his name from under heaven," Deut.

The poor ignorant world miss of heaven, because they make light of the gospel that offereth mercy to them freely, and because they lean upon their own good meanings, and thinkings, and doings. Matt. Rom.

The poor carnal world miss of heaven, because by unbelief, which reigns in them, they are kept for ever from being clothed with Christ's righteousness, and from washing in his blood, without which there is neither remission of sin, nor justification. - The Strait Gate.