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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (19709)	7/27/1998 4:56:00 PM
From: John S.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Emile, Matthew 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. I differentiate between nationality and religion. God knows the true lineage and I'm referring to Rev 7. where He knows the 144,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel. I do not presume that because a person is an Israeli that that makes him a descendant of Abraham, neither does it mean an Israeli is a follower of Judaism. Are only followers of Judaism permitted citizenship in Israel? Ezekiel 36 tells me that in spite of themselves God will glorify His name again in Israel and in spite of themselves the Jews have a homeland that is prophetic and foreshadows the second coming of the Lord. To bring glory to HIS name. In spite of myself the Lord saved me from Hell. In spite of myself He chooses to use me and those that love Him and in our weaknesses His strength is made perfect. II Cor 12:9 Gods' blessings John

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (19709)	7/27/1998 9:46:00 PM
From: IN_GOD_I_TRUST	Respond to of 39621

Emile, I am trying to understand what you believe, so pardon me if I ask you something you already answered or you do not want to address yet. But if this does not disturb you to much, can you just answer a simple question? Do you feel that these are literal verses in Revelation? After his I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that no wind should blow on the earth, or on the sea, or upon any tree. 2 And I saw another angel ascend from the sunrising, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a great voice to the four angels to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3 saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we shall have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads. 4 And I heard the number of them that were sealed, a hundred and forty and four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the children of Israel: 5 Of the tribe of Judah [were] sealed twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand; Of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand; 6 Of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand; Of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand; Of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand; 7 Of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand; Of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand; Of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand; 8 Of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand; Of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand; Of the tribe of Benjamin [were] sealed twelve thousand. 9 After these things I saw, and behold, a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of [all] tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, arrayed in white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 and they cry with a great voice, saying, Salvation unto our God who sitteth on the throne, and unto the Lamb. 11 And all the angels were standing round about the throne, and [about] the elders and the four living creatures; and they fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12 saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and might, [be] unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. Are the "hundred and forty and four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the children of Israel" Jewish people? God Bless, Steve PS- Check out my post if you did not already. I thought the author did a real good job in it! Message 5329927