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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (13042)	7/28/1998 1:33:00 AM
From: Valueman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Maurice: No kidding tonight--much too tired. Not a CDMA2000 license, a W-CDMA license! Key difference. Important me thinks. Can't recall when, but I am sure someone will conjure up the relevant story eventually. I am surprised you missed that point. Then again, 13,000+ posts cannot all be scrutinized!

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (13042)	7/28/1998 2:42:00 AM
From: Asterisk	Respond to of 152472

my post was dated by w houston

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (13042)	7/28/1998 6:21:00 AM
From: brian h	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Maurice, **********OTOTOT******** RealNetworks is lastly still 15% owned by MSFT. Ever imagine that why your Eudora Pro does not work properly with MS IE 4.0 etc but ok to run with MS Outlook product? Another Ericsson tactic? Crash your rivals with your marketing power. SEATTLE, July 24 (Reuters) - RealNetworks Inc. Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Rob Glaser said Friday he stands by his Senate testimony that certain Microsoft Corp. Internet software disables competing products. In a hastily called conference call with reporters, Glaser vigorously disputed Microsoft's assertion that the problem stemmed from a bug in RealNetworks software that is in a testing phase. ''Microsoft Windows Media Player breaks or disables RealNetworks products in a number of scenarios,'' Glaser said. ''It includes cases where the product is a shipping gold product, and it includes cases where the product in question is a beta testing product.'' Glaser and other executives said the Microsoft software, for playing audio and video over the internet, also disables similar competing products from rivals Xing Technology Corp. and Digital Bitcasting Corp. In a note posted on its Internet home page, Microsoft said RealNetworks' new G2 beta software, which was demonstrated in Thursday's Senate hearing, fails to install itself to operate correctly with Netscape Communications Corp.'s Internet browser. Both Glaser and a Netscape official denied the claim. ''We think that Microsoft disables our product and that clearly there was software that was designed intentionally to do so,'' Glaser said. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- More**, RealNetworks Steaming Over Microsoft Streaming By Connie Guglielmo, ZDNet The once-heralded "coopetition" that existed between the industry's leading video streaming players came to an abrupt end on Capital Hill Thursday when RealNetworks Inc. Chief Executive Officer Rob Glaser testified that ally-turned-competitor Microsoft Corp. is taking "actions that simply stop our company's products from working." Nearly a year after Microsoft licensed Real's streaming media technology and invested in the company as part of a much-touted $60 million strategic alliance, former Microsoft executive Glaser charged, in his first appearance before the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee, that Microsoft's free Windows Media Player (WMP) deliberately "breaks RealNetworks' products" and "damages our business and reputation." Microsoft swiftly denied the charges, saying Real had "mischaracterized" incompatiblities between the RealPlayer and its WMP, technology it plans to build into its Windows operating system later this year that allows users to view audio and video files off the Web. Released earlier this month, the WMP plays back many streamed media file types and is intended to eliminate "the need for users to have multiple players installed on their PCs." Under the 1997 licensing deal, Microsoft licensed Real's core 4.0 technology, a file format it now supports in the WMP. But it chose not to license Real's subsequent 5.0 and G2 technology for the additional $25 million offered under the 1997 agreement, said Bruce Jacobsen, RealNetworks' president. "It was their prerogative not to license future versions of our technology and support it in the media player," he said. "But we think they've gone over the line by breaking our player and disabling it so users get error messages when they try to play content created with our technology." RealNetworks documented its charges in a white paper, titled "Windows Media Player Disabling the RealPlayer," that provides step-by-step instructions on duplicating the player problems (www.real.com/corporate/pressroom/pr/testimony/whitewmp.html). Because the WMP is automatically assigned as the default media player, RealNetworks claims the "RealPlayer will not be opened automatically as it should be if a RealAudio or RealVideo clip is played. The net result in this situation is that the Windows Media Player causes the RealPlayer to stop functioning." Microsoft said installation of the WMP should not interfere with the RealPlayer, according to Yusef Medhi, director of Windows marketing. Instead, Medhi countered that RealNetworks broke the "spirit" of the 1997 agreement by falling to abandon its proprietary streaming media file format in favor of the Advanced Streaming Format (ASF) Microsoft is working on making a streaming media file standard for the industry. As part of that effort, Microsoft announced an "interoperability" agreement with Cisco Systems Inc. last week; Cisco said it would support ASF, and Microsoft said it will work to make sure its NetShow streaming media server interoperates with Cisco's IP/TV technology. "The spirit of the agreement was 'let's get away from competing on standards, and let's compete on implementation,' " Medhi said, adding that Microsoft never intended to license or support RealNetworks' post-4.0 technologies. "Pushing their own proprietary protocols is not in that spirit." Although RealNetworks' technology has earned a position as the de facto standard for video and audio streaming on the Web, largely because it was the first to popularize such technology, Microsoft has worked aggressively over the past year to enhance its NetShow streaming media server technologies. In addition to the RealNetworks investment, it acquired Vxtreme Inc. Brian H.