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To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (35192)	7/29/1998 12:10:00 PM
From: Majic-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572931

Pravin, "I guess IBM's limited process experience leads them to the faulty conclusion that copper is worth pursuing at this time" ? IBM has produced the most advanced cpu around, the ppc G3... Intel is not capable of designing cpu's witch have a core voltage of 1.9 volt @ 366 MHz.. . (with very good performance, to..) Michael da Kota, From Holland With Love

To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (35192)	7/29/1998 12:23:00 PM
From: FJB	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572931

Pravin, RE: Let's face it, both copper and low K are important, but switching to copper is a larger technical challenge. This article implies low K is not a cakewalk either. "I don't think low-k dielectric has matured as much as copper metalization," says Craig Schuckert, product manager at HD MicroSystems. HD MicroSystems is the Wilmington, Del.-based joint venture of Hitachi Chemical and Du Pont Electronics. "It(copper) is one material that has a lot of knowns," says Mr. Schuckert. By contrast, he added that multiple dielectric materials are being worked on today. "In reality, we thought people would start with low k and move to copper, but copper has turned out to be much easier to integrate and so people are going to move to copper and then integrate low k," says Mr. Monnig. sumnet.com Bob

To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (35192)	7/29/1998 12:27:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572931

All, What is this? A shortage of Intel chips due to production problems? whatisnew.com "Dobb's, Silicon Alley, and News Express are now broadcast by ESC Technologies. Click on the image to tune into these broadcasts or follow this link. Tuesday July 28, 1998 Good afternoon! We've delayed writing this section today until we had more information on Intel processors. Expect severe shortages on Intel processors for the next 8 weeks. This will drive prices up on the OEM market. According to Intel, there was manufacturing difficulty. There will be 150,000 Pentium II 266 MHz processors available approximately in mid-August. Everything else will have a delay and we do not have timing. Patience will be vital. According to Intel, the first Xeon 400 MHz have shipped. There are 73 pieces available. If you have a motherboard, then we can get the product for you. We have not tested these products. The price is $1279.00 for quantity one. " ............ Jim

To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (35192)	7/29/1998 2:44:00 PM
From: Yousef	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572931

Pravin, Re: " If you stick to the same interconnect design rules while switching to copper, the height of the interconnect can be lowered (30%)...decreasing the area of the capacitor between parallel lines on the same level." This is not necessarily the case, Pravin ... Please see my earlier post on this topic. Basically, Copper thickness control is much worse than for Aluminum: Message 5232529 Therefore, one cannot just make the assumption of a 30% - 40% reduction in Copper thickness. Paul also brings up a good point about the barrier materials are needed on the sides of the Copper lines thus increasing the effective Rs ... And again, one needs thicker Copper to offset this effect. Hope this helps. Make It So, Yousef