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To: Rob Rob who wrote (2771)7/29/1998 6:25:00 PM
From: DEER HUNTER  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 5232
 
Rob....I don't know what is going on. That's the problem......anything I can dig up I'll report. The blood is in the street. By the way.....most everyone was caught with their hands in their pockets this time around. That's the scary part. Most everyone is trapped at the moment.

DH



To: Rob Rob who wrote (2771)7/29/1998 7:10:00 PM
From: Doughboy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 5232
 
As the NY Times article pointed out a couple of weeks ago, a lot of the downward reaction to the stock is emotion. CA did not deserve the 45% haircut based on its warning; probably 20-25% was more reasonable. But money managers have a beef with Wang and Kumar on how they handled this: taking their precious options and then releasing news that sent the stock down the toilet. In the end, I suspect, Wang and Kumar came out about even, they increased their holdings by about a third and then they lost that much with the rest of us. (That's just a guess.) And, no two ways about it, that stinks. Shareholders vote with their feet, and they are simply walking away from CA. Without buyers and momentum, CA is going to drift down. The fundamentals are still good, and it may be a good value play, but I don't think that fundamentals are what is important now. CA is not going to get off the mat for a while, IMHO, until Charles is able to engender good will among shareholders. At a minimum, it'll take a few good quarters to get the bitter taste out of the mouth. A couple of things CA could do to turn things around faster: They could release more definite information about how long they expect soft sales; "several quarters" is just too vague. Better yet, they could move the stock a bit with some statements that the reaction of the market was overdone and that they still expect solid earnings by the second half of the fiscal year. Or they could announce a stock buyback. So, speaking of bitter taste in the mouth, is Gall right that we might fall into the low 30s? Yeah, I'll go along with that. With the "emotion" here and the fact that the NAZ bear market is creating other great values out there, I don't think there'll be many people out there who want a piece of a company that warned of flat earnings for "several quarters." That's my depressing assessment.

DougHboy



To: Rob Rob who wrote (2771)7/31/1998 7:32:00 AM
From: OldAIMGuy  Respond to of 5232
 
Hi RR, Looking back over the three+ years I've watched (I'm not an owner of CA) this stock, it has had periods where the price has fallen away from the 26 week moving average. Two of them have been rather sharp drops while the others were just quick bashings.

Assuming that you had kept a core position, a cash reserve and some "trading shares" you could have managed several small buys and sells along the way. One of the problems with "all in, all out" trading is that on strong stocks, they sometimes don't let you back "all in" during long bull phases. One of the problems with Buy & Hold is that profits remain largely "unrealized" and can, as you noted, evaporate.

AIM's a compromise between "trading" and "Buy & Hold." It might be just right for stocks similar to CA.

Best regards, Tom