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To: K A Anderson who wrote (6113)	7/29/1998 9:50:00 PM
From: Gary R. Owens	Respond to of 6654

KAA, <For now it is better to check the personal feelings at the door and get along with the business program.> That is why we're very lucky to have you involved. Once again, my hat is off to you, sir. Having just caught up on the posts, I can say that I cannot imagine being in a better situation right now considering where we have come from during the past weeks/months. gary

To: K A Anderson who wrote (6113)	7/29/1998 11:37:00 PM
From: Ike Hunter	Respond to of 6654

KAA, Just another 'Thankyou note' from me and your other Canadian friends who also have taken a big hit on this one. We appreciate your relentless pursuit of ethical morality! Keep up the good work. Ike.

To: K A Anderson who wrote (6113)	7/30/1998 12:53:00 AM
From: Art C.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6654

KAA--Being on the board, I know, puts you in the position of being an insider; a tough position to be in in respect to posting to a public forum such as this is. I would imagine that you have to tread very carefully and balance every word that you post here, and I respect that. However, I do have 2 or 3 questions that I hope that you can answer. First of all, before the fiasco with WOTD, CVIA was not in debt that I can recall, but not FLUSH with money either. If CVIA loaned that money to WOTD and the 2nd reg. S is off, what kind of capitol do we have to work with? What do we have to offer as incentive to another company to merge? I would really appreciate some explanation of the mechanics of how this would work, not because I am a skeptic, but because I know for a fact that you are more skilled in these matters than I am, and for me, this is definitely a learning curve. One other thing, and I know that this is entirely out of your hands, can you find out, or at least speculate as to why the ask/bid spread is so large on the stock. I know that I have bitched about this before, but a 100% spread is ridiculous. Art

To: K A Anderson who wrote (6113)	7/30/1998 1:16:00 PM
From: Jim Armstrong	Respond to of 6654

Excellent! Excellent! Hard to do, but in everyone's best interest. Well said! JimA

To: K A Anderson who wrote (6113)	7/31/1998 7:51:00 AM
From: D LEE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6654

To ALL: Here is a proposal for CVIA in it's present condition. It is only ideas, and only a start, and possibly wrong... see what you think. If it is wrong....."Show yourselves better ideas quickly!" If it is right......"Proceed quickly!" But DECIDE!! Your stock is languishing! 1)-Let all the publicly held shares today become preferred shares. - somehow to differentiate and reward those who have held on. - be genuinely fair to them...they will be your best demand market for additional common shares. This could be difficult. Perhaps the preferred could become some multiple of the common "automatically", at some future date, restoring value the investors have lost since the split. Provide fair incentive to the shareholders not to sell their preferred just now. Follow through with conviction. It may be feasible to treat each shareholders preferred individually, for they have "purchased" at different times and prices since the split. 2)-sell/release common shares into the market for funding 3)-use these funds to purchase other stock. and/or other investment forms 4) -the value of the shares will become linked to the cvia portfolio. 5) -You have created a publicly traded investment company! 6) Could there be other benefits?.."Sure!" I don't know, but somebody does. I think all things are possible. There are no middle men! There is no secret entity or mysterious plan! There are no "head to head negotiations" with other companies to further dilute the present value of CVIA! ______________________________________________________ You are all investors "right now". So just think about an example several posts above on this thread: here is Matt. one of SI's youngest. Along comes Daniel... Matt snaps his fingers...(challenges.) ...Daniel accepts immediately. Matt broadens the challenge..... Daniel snaps his fingers. There are now a potential 152 people available to participate in "an investment contest". This did not take long!! Practically overnight!! while people forming ideas for the future CVIA were eating and sleeping. There were no cvia meetings before, during, or after this short interlude between 2 of our youngest SI members! (no insult to anybody intended here! just a compliment to youth and simplicity) These people will be prepared after Daniel returns from camp to begin putting out their best picks for an investment contest. That is work, and it will be done freely and with much lightness of heart! Efforts such as this could be just as easily be delegated towards the CVIA investment policy rather than simply a contest. So I feel like mentioning Matt's example. Now, if you feel I am promoting any favoritism for Matt, or guiding him in what he does....think again. Take my hard disk apart and prove it. Matt is simply acting on his own! By his own motivation! It's his proven motivation that I am applauding here. "And without motivation, speaking from experience, You Die!!" ....so does a company. "For your own good, remember Matt's example!" (This advice is for Jack Arnold and KAA too!) __________________________________________________________ CVIA might return the favor keeping shareholders informed with free news letters of two types including availability to the public. 1)a free common shareholder news letter. 2)a more in depth free preferred shareholder's news letter. 3)availability of these letters to the public for a price. CVIA is then selling research information as well as keeping it's shareholders well informed. (use a web site with password to defray cost to shareholders and non shareholder customers having Internet access) CVIA needn't merge with some "shipping magnet" to become successful. It might become more like an "idea magnet" Imo. (I'm sure you think i'm getting too spacific here!) ____________________________________________________________ But, How is it that young people can scream past us, and we stand around not noticing; as we expect others to do for us?? No, I haven't purchased CVIA shares yet. And that is why. It's hard for me to be what you call a thread basher. And I did something "like" bashing. I warned. Three times I think, in a special way that would help others see they must plan for the possibility of a big drop. This SI system is awkward. It was very awkward to discuss possible downturn in the stock! It's downright impolite here. But I can do more than warn now. -you are investors. Discuss! ..Roll this idea into the bod! You are versed in it! Develop ideas here, outside on the thread, to assist and stand behind KAA. Let the bod know as investors you see this as a very possible solution....if you do see it. Let KAA be strong in this new bod and "unable to be ignored". Let Jack Arnold know you have an idea. It is now time to act in the best interest of the shareholders. This proposal is also a simple one minimizing the need for the closed doors which have been so improperly used in the past. That alone would be "one fantastic step forward". Politely reminding you jack is still on the board. All have the chance to "come clean". And no offence to you jack, from here. You have my continued "Hello"! Dave sorry so long and poorly written. Want to get this in before the meeting. You never know. But thank you all, i try to guess.