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To: Elmer who wrote (35362)	8/1/1998 12:39:00 AM
From: Kevin K. Spurway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574043

Re: "My interpretation is that K7 will compete, but it will not be competitive with Willamette." How is AMD supposed to know the exact performance specifications of Willamette? Do you think they have a sample of Willamette and have benchmarked it against K7? Think again--not even Intel has Willamette silicon yet. AMD is only promising what they can realistically promise--that the K7 will be faster than ANY sixth generation processor, Intel or otherwise. Use your head. Kevin PS AMD stated: "K7 will outclass any current Intel design based on 6th generation PII, including XEON." I think the logical translation of this is that you have to compare processors of qual megahertz. Ifter all, if you overclock a Pentium MMX to 300 MHz and compare it to a 233 MHz PII, the Pentium MMX is faster. However, the PII DESIGN outclasses any 5th generation design available. Did you say you were an engineer?

To: Elmer who wrote (35362)	8/2/1998 12:01:00 AM
From: Tony Viola	Respond to of 1574043

Thanks Elmer, for the K7 info. The following is part of Petz's post: >>Most of what's below comes from a "chat" session last Friday hosted by Shiloh at hardware.pairnet.com. Two AMD reps participated in the chat.<< 1 thru 7. see Petz's post. >>8. K7 specifications will be released October and demo'd at Comdex (Nov.)<< I guess I'll have to wait until then to find out what the K7 is...Desktop chip, server chip, or both. More from Petz. >>10. On the K7:<MichaelLim> We can say that K7 is a 7th generation processor design. As such it is meant to compete with Intel's next 7th generation CPU code named "Willamette" K7 will outclass any current Intel design based on 6th generation PII, including XEON.<< Compete with Willamette? In what parameters? Outclass current Intel? in terms of what? You know, AMD really needs to learn how to do advance hyping of their future chips in areas that aren't just clock and bus related. How about function? If I'm sitting here as a future server designer, trying to identify the chips that I should consider for the "engines", in all honesty and without prejudice, I have no choice but to specify Intel. That's because I haven't seen that AMD, or anyone else has said they will be compatible in function. This is if I want to design NT servers of the type that the Pentium Pro has established. Alpha maybe but that involves a whole other set of hardware, such as chipsets and MOBOs, that immediately rules out the economies of scale that make Intel based much more cost effective. Forget Alpha. Didn't even get to RAS. Tony