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To: Robert K. who wrote (6881)8/2/1998 11:25:00 AM
From: aknahow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17367
 
Great post by Kelley on the subject of dilution. I have tried to make the same points but have failed to express them as well.









To: +FUGAZI (23766 )
From: +J.D. Kelley
Saturday, Aug 1 1998 12:59PM ET
Reply # of 23784

Fugazi,

If you want to compare dilution with Isis you have a complicated analysis. Ligand has issued more shares 38M
to 27 M. Comparable burn rates, and Liquid assets. Both have good science platforms. ISIS has borrowed
$40M at 14% interest with a lot of the interest deferred. This compounds quickly. The 40 M is then used on
targeted programs, Any profits from drugs out of this program are split 50/50. I'll argue that although ISIS has
not issued shares for this collaborative agreement there is real and significant dilution to the potential earnings to
the shareholder(14% interest and 1/2 the profits). Also check out the relationship with Novartis, Novartis owns
8% of ISIS and has significant rights to many of the products developed by ISIS, in many cases returning
royalty payments to ISIS. Again I argue that dilution is present, just not directly in the form of stock.

I like Isip's antisense program and am watching it closely for a buy, much like you are waiting on Ligand to
give you a buy signal.
Comparing ISIS and LGND, I believe that Ligand has more potential in its pipeline, and the relative dilution is
comparable, all things considered.
However , the biotech game is very difficult, and getting to the large indications is the answer to real value
creation, I believe that Ligand has to and is going through incremental steps with Karposi's and Ontak to get to
help support the time, $, and credibility to launch the big indication drugs.

J.D.




















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