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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: halfscot who wrote (178)	8/2/1998 2:42:00 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

"Over half of all Americans have committed adultery." I sincerely doubt that as well as "studies" which show that 3,000 teenagers start smoking every day, etc. I don't see any empirical evidence to support such statistics. Even if true, SO WHAT? Those Americans were not elected President and did not take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution and laws of this country. Last time I looked, perjury was still a felony. JLA

To: halfscot who wrote (178)	8/2/1998 4:05:00 PM
From: Les H	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

Adultery puts general's Joint Chiefs bid in doubt Associated Press Equality: Lawmakers want to make sure military is consistent in enforcing its codes WASHINGTON (AP) - Air Force Gen. Joseph Ralston's bid to become the nation's top military officer was in serious doubt Friday, as senior Democrats urged the Clinton administration to ensure the military evenly enforces its codes against adultery. Defense Secretary William Cohen went to Capitol Hill on Friday to measure sentiment against the possible promotion of Ralston to chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff following disclosure that Ralston had an adulterous affair in the 1980s. Even lawmakers willing to give Ralston the benefit of the doubt were sounding pessimistic. As Cohen met with senior lawmakers, new names surfaced at the Pentagon for possible promotion to the Joint Chief's post. And some senior military officers suggested privately that Ralston withdraw his name from consideration to spare Cohen and President Clinton further embarrassment. The White House pointedly avoided questions about whether Ralston should be promoted. Asked whether the Pentagon was following a double standard, treating Ralston more leniently than women and lower-ranking officers, Vice President Al Gore said, "We think that there should properly be a high standard and the secretary of defense is in agreement with that." Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D., the Senate minority leader, said the military must enforce the rules of conduct equally. "That has to be the guiding determination here. Is it being applied similarly?" Daschle said. "If it isn't, then I think the Pentagon needs to re-evaluate whether this nomination ought to go forward." Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said the "burden of proof" was on the Clinton administration to show that Ralston deserved the job. "The timing here, the coincidence of events is very awkward and makes this nomination more difficult," said Lieberman, a reference to the recent dismissal of Air Force bomber pilot Kelly Flinn for adultery and other offenses. "Bill Clinton may be able to make the case, but my worry would be, unless it's a very strong case, what message does that send down the chain of command about what behavior will be tolerated?" Asked if Clinton was concerned about the reaction that women's groups would have to a Ralston promotion, White House spokesman Mike McCurry said, "He understands that people have to know the facts and learn more about this and we'll see what they'll think." Ralston is now vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs, a post he gained before his superiors knew of his affair 13 years ago with a civilian employee of the CIA. The Ralston affair came to light just a few days after the Air Force ended the career of the first female B-52 pilot in Air Force history. Flinn, a first lieutenant, was granted a general discharge in lieu of court-martial for adultery, lying, disobeying orders and fraternization. Asked the difference between the two cases, McCurry said, "I'm not aware General Ralston had been charged with insubordination or lying." Ralston's affair occurred while he was legally separated from his wife, whom he later divorced. Flinn had an affair with the husband of an Air Force enlisted woman, then denied it to her superiors and disobeyed an order to break off contact with the man.

To: halfscot who wrote (178)	8/3/1998 1:27:00 AM
From: pezz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 13994

Perhaps under oath this percentage might well diminish, but only because of fear of punishment or fear of getting caught,not because of some great moral respect for the oath.I do not agree with your workplace analogy.Has the President's ability to govern been compromised?If so it is only the investigation that has taken his time.Because his popularity has been so high congress has been afraid to challenge him on many issues. halfscot,we the people hired Clinton to do a job. The American people by and large approve of the job he is doing.They do not ask for any higher standard.His job is not to be a roll model for little kiddies.It is not to send any kind of messages based on some particular groups moral code.It is to run the country, or so say the people who have hired him.We hired him.We like the job he is doing.I understand some may wish to hold him to a higher but most don't agree.We who have hired him define the job in any way we like. pez