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To: Jan Crawley who wrote (12338)8/2/1998 7:36:00 PM
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Subject: Financial Spreadsheet
Author: CouchPoDATO

Puumba is continually asking for a detailed spreadsheet to support AMZN's current/future valuation with no response from TMF's (you gotta admire his persistence). I would also love to see this type of analysis, but probably for a different reason than you - pure entertainment. Let me explain.

I've spent my entire career working with high tech start-ups, some from inception through VC financing and finally an IPO. All of them were required to do some financial forecasting for the next 5 years and rolling budgets for the next 12 months in order to get financing (whether it's public or private financing), and I've helped prepare these financial models in many instances. And although they provide some value in trying to determine a companies overall valuation, they are secondary in the investor's eyes (whether that's a underwriter or a VC) to the "story" and management capabilities.

When a company is in its infancy in a newly developing market space (like Amazon is), the long term forecasts are almost useless. Investors will spend much more time evaluating the companies 5-year strategic plan, and examining their gut feelings as to whether management has the skills to execute. This is the type of discussion that our Foolish leaders partake in, and I for one agree.

What do VC's look for when investing? Here's a very incomplete list, but these are the most important and probably in order:

1. Large potential market
2. Quality of management
3. The vision of management
4. Defensible position/Competition (barriers to entry)

Argue these types of things until your blue in the face, but we're all going to learn together whether Amazon's vision is correct or not. By the way, I enjoy reading posts discussing these types of things vs. valuation or daily stock movements, because for speculative investments, they are truly the things that matter.

I have no clue where to start with developing a meaningful long-term financial model, especially since the assumptions are changing weekly and there is no existing model to use as a guide. Don't you ever wonder why so may of the people who are paid to develop these types of analyses (Wall St. analysts) are developing "new age" valuation methods when looking at companies like Amazon and Yahoo? These are some very smart people (although I doubt that they are smarter than me), and they too are clueless. As a matter of fact, most start-ups aren't even preparing detailed 5-year projects internally because they recognize that there is limited value in their ability to aid in managing the business. The only time they do it is when it is required by investors like VC's or underwriters.

Based on the comments of AMZN's management over the past few months, it seems to me that they have a long term strategic plan that is being evaluated based on a short-term results. Nothing wrong with this approach. The general rule for these types of companies - develop a long term vision, stay focused but flexible, evaluate your progress against your strategic plan, and manage cash, manage cash, manage cash. It's like a giant experiment, with management looking on like a scientist in a lab trying to cure cancer - you know what your overall goal is, but you're not really sure what's going to happen in the short-term in your lab or in the long-term in some other guy's lab. You just stick to your plan, evaluate the effect of your decisions and react accordingly. These guys are pioneers, and as such, recognize that it's hard enough trying to predict what's around the next bend, never mind what's going to happen 5 or10 years out.

It's very clear to me, and I think bears and bulls alike agree, that AMZN is a speculative investment. There's nothing wrong with this, but investors in speculative companies need to be visionary. A traditional value approach is just not appropriate. I think this is why DG is so frustrated arguing his position (like his post about how AMZN is really a chance for the generally public to get in on a VC opportunity). When people like Rimpinths point to the fact of "sell more, lose more" they are not being visionary. It takes vision to see the potential opportunities (and potential pitfalls) that exist for Amazon. It takes intelligence to argue these visionary points (whether bullish or bearish). But to look at current losses and not see that it is an investment in the future (management's vision) is like sticking your head in the sand (Rimpinths, I'm not attacking you personally, I just remember that you said this because I read all your posts with such interest).

Management's strategic plan says that the bottom line is not important now, but sales growth is. Their ultimate goal is not $500 million in annual revuenus (which is what they'll probably exceed this year), but much more. That they are plowing every cent back into the business to build a sales base that will be profitable in the future is exactly management's plan. When will they reach profitability? My guess is that will occur when management determines that additional money spent to grow sales is providing returns lower than if they had not spent it. Why retain earnings when you can use them to grow sales at the rate Amazon is? Question the plan if you like, but do it with a vision of the future, because Amazon is going to be around for at least a few more years. The fact that this quarter's loss was $0.44 or $0.20, as was estimated a few months ago, is irrelevant. Think about that for a while before firing off a reply and you just might grasp the concept.

Remember, these comments are coming from a very conservative CPA whose grounded in financial details (you should see my Quicken accounts - I'm just waiting for an IRS audit so I can be officially tabbed "most detailed recorded keeper in the US). The point is, I can develop a resonable model to fit any valuation you want, but if Amazon continues to execute its business plan, and their vision of the future of e-commerce is correct, the current valuation may look like a bargain. It's much more beneficial to examine the quality of the business plan, and then using short term results, evaluate management's ability to execute.

This is not more internet hype from a bull (although I am bullish on Amazon). As a matter of fact, I haven't even given an opinion on the current or future valuation. This is just the reality of financial forecasting for high tech start-ups in new industries.

Sharing my real world experiences,

CouchPoDATO
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To: Jan Crawley who wrote (12338)8/2/1998 8:31:00 PM
From: Glenn D. Rudolph  Respond to of 164684
 
Mike Dobres knew something was up two years ago, when prospective buyers
started walking into his car dealership with printouts of dealer invoice prices.
Dobres, general sales manager of Royal Motor Sales in San Francisco, quickly
realized that car-buying services on the Internet, such as Auto-By-Tel Corp., were
giving customers a frightening new edge on his salespeople. Since then, his profits
have sunk by as much as 25%. ''People know what you pay for your car,'' he sighs,
''and they don't let you make the big profits.''

Some 2,000 miles east, car dealer Jeff Peters is downright chipper about the
Internet. The sales manager of Byers Chrysler Plymouth Dodge in Columbus, Ohio,
hooked up four months ago with Autoweb.com, a Net car-buying service, and is
now selling 12 additional cars per month on top of his usual 160--and paying just
$29 per Internet referral. His biggest surprise: A wired buyer in Kentucky,
hundreds of miles away, struck a deal with him. Says Peters: ''There's no way I
could've gotten that guy without the Internet.''

Big threats and fresh opportunities--that's the Web. Think spiderweb: Is it a dandy
way to catch dinner, or a deadly trap? The answer depends entirely on whether
you're the spider or the fly. The companies embracing the Web and weaving it to
their own ends--whether they're using it to sell products, streamline operations, or
automate customer service--are thriving. For the rest, blithely buzzing along in real
space, things are getting very sticky very fast. ''This is fundamentally a new
economy that will displace and rebuild the existing economy,'' says analyst Clay
Ryder of Zona Research Inc. in Redwood City, Calif.

Without a doubt, the Internet is ushering in an era of sweeping change that will
leave no business or industry untouched. In just three years, the Net has gone from
a playground for nerds into a vast communications and trading center where some
90 million people swap information or do deals around the world. Imagine: It took
radio more than 30 years to reach 60 million people, and television 15 years. Never
has a technology caught fire so fast.

SELLING EVERYWHERE. But then, few have made this much sense. Like a
central nervous system, the Information Highway courses around the globe, making
all manner of commerce instantly possible. More than 400,000 companies have
hung www.shingle.com atop their digital doorways with the notion that being
anywhere on the Net means they can sell virtually everywhere. And sure enough,
sales are picking up: Goods and services sold online to U.S. and European
consumers this year will top $5.1 billion--more than double the 1997 figure,
according to Forrester Research Inc.

While that's still small in the grand scheme of business, the numbers don't come
close to capturing the real wallop of the Net. Beyond the glitzy Web sites, well past
the buzz about Web-zines and chat rooms, businesses are adopting the Internet to
get serious work done. By using the Internet to link directly to suppliers, factories,
distributors, and customers, these companies are electrifying their usually
time-consuming and tedious tasks.

It is nothing less than the collapse of time and space between partners. With the help
of the Web, businesses are wringing time out of product design, speeding up the
order and delivery of components, tracking sales by the hour, and getting instant
feedback from customers--all the while keeping inventories to a bare minimum. It
is reengineering all over again, only this time geared to getting every nanosecond of
advantage out of the Internet. ''If companies can learn to get the slop out of the
system--and the Internet is absolutely crucial for this--prices come down,'' says
Bryan Stolle, chief executive officer at Agile Software Corp. in San Jose, Calif.

SAVINGS AND SPEED. Indeed, behind this blinding speed shimmers the
promise of incredible efficiency. Companies have barely begun to realize how
potent the Net can be. But consider the vanguard already wired. At Boeing Co.,
there are 75 projects for using the Net to connect to contractors and
customers--everything from zapping documents to the government to tracking the
history of every plane Boeing sells. The expected savings will reach into the
millions of dollars. And at Adaptec Inc. in Milpitas, Calif., the maker of computer
storage products has sped up communications with its Taiwanese chip suppliers by
way of links over the Net. The results have been marked: Adaptec has reduced its
time from order to delivery by more than half, to just 55 days, and the company
has saved more than $1 million in costs.

Saving money is just the start. The ultimate prize is the creation of new wealth: As
the Net tears down the walls of geography, companies are creating entirely new
businesses and tapping markets they never could have reached before. Network
Associates in Santa Clara, Calif., for instance, doesn't market its antivirus software
in many countries outside the U.S. because it's too expensive. But recently its first
sale of a new help-desk software product came from a bank in Spain, which
downloaded it and ordered a 30-seat license. ''That's the marketing power you get
online,'' says division manager Zach Nelson. ''Instant sale. No cost.''

''KITTY HAWK ERA.'' It's the promise of frictionless capitalism. And there
are signs that it is gaining speed. U.S. businesses will exchange an estimated $17
billion in goods and services this year over the Net, more than double the amount in
1997, according to Forrester. By 2002, that's expected to explode to $327 billion.
Combine that with cost savings to business and online consumer buying and the
Internet could add an estimated $10 billion to $20 billion to gross domestic product
in four years, BUSINESS WEEK estimates (page 130). Says Jeff Bezos, chief
executive of Web bookseller Amazon.com: ''This is the Kitty Hawk era of
electronic commerce.''

That's the upside. With the emergence of a new era also comes upheaval across
nearly every industry, often with frightening results. The flip side of squeezing
inefficiencies out of business transactions, after all, is that it sometimes squeezes out
entire businesses along the way. In coming years, thousands of employees could find
their jobs turned topsy-turvy as human tasks, such as selling airline tickets or
tending to customer complaints over the phone, are taken over by the one-to-one,
buyer-to-seller, nature of the Net.

One of the first to feel the pinch: the travel industry. When you can bone up on
vacation destinations, compare flights, and purchase an airline ticket on the Net,
what's left for the travel agent? Some travel sites offer an option to have an agent
issue the ticket, but ''customers see no added value'' in that, says

Rich Barton, general manager of Microsoft Travel Services, which runs the
Expedia travel Web site. Just ask Vanita Louie, president of San Francisco-based
South Pacific Express Travels, a $25 million agency. ''We've lost at least 10% to
15% of our sales to the Internet over the past year,'' she laments.

From travel agents to stockbrokers to retailers, businesses are feeling the force of
the Net. The threat goes by the unwieldy name ''disintermediation''--the process of
cutting out middlemen. But whatever you call it, it's already taking a big bite out of
companies that have been slow to adapt to the massive changes the Net has wrought.
Online brokerages, for example, are quickly gaining converts, with more than 5
million accounts. E*Trade Group Inc. trumpets savings over traditional brokers in
TV ads and billboards that declare: ''Someday, everyone will trade this way.'' It
also offers a free book punningly titled Boot Your Broker. Cracks E*Trade CEO
Christos M. Cotsakos: ''The brokerage branch network will be a great place to have
fast-food franchises.''

BLURRING ROLES. Indeed, the Net is deconstructing the fundamental nature of
business transactions. As every link in the supply chain is wired, the traditional
roles of manufacturers, distributors, and suppliers are blurring--and buyers will be
the ultimate winners. Why? Because on the Web, buyers can quickly compare
products and prices from a wide range of suppliers faster and more easily than ever
before--putting them in a better bargaining position. They can even share
information among themselves. ''The balance of power shifts away from business
and to the consumer,'' says Amazon.com's Bezos.

The same goes for corporate buyers. The Web makes it easier to deal with multiple
suppliers, which is often too cumbersome and time-consuming to do offline. Wired
corporations find themselves armed to play suppliers off one another and get lower
prices or better service. General Electric Co. bought $1 billion worth of supplies
via the Net last year. That saved the company 20% on materials costs because its
divisions were able to reach a wider base of suppliers to hammer out better deals.
By 2000, GE expects to be buying $5 billion over the Net.

PROFITABLE WEB SITES. The upshot: ''It's a huge sea change for all
businesses,'' says Tim Koogle, CEO of Internet portal Yahoo! Inc. Koogle should
know: Yahoo! started as a commercial operation in 1995 with a simple, if
humongous, list of Web sites to help people navigate the Web. But like the Web
itself, Yahoo! is changing fast. The once amazing ability to search the entire World
Wide Web became prosaic in a Net instant, so Yahoo!, at the tender age of two
years, began reinventing itself as a place to trade stocks, make travel reservations,
and conduct commerce. It's even profitable, valued by investors at an almost
unthinkable $5.5 billion--more than Apple, Circuit City, Dow Jones, or Maytag.

Yahoo! isn't the only Net pioneer taking wing. From stodgy industries such as
utilities and insurance to fast-moving businesses such as computers and stock
trading, companies are taking advantage of the Net to revamp their businesses--or
build brand-new ones.

And they're no longer black holes for investment. By the close of 1997, the number
of profitable Web sites--both for consumers and for interbusiness
transactions--jumped to 46%, ending three years of stagnation at 30%, according to
a survey by market researcher ActivMedia of Peterborough, N.H. And some 81%
of the remainder expect to be profitable in a year or two (page 154). ''We're being
transformed into a 'click here' economy,'' says Renee Cantu, marketing promotions
program manager for SportSite.com, an online sports-equipment retailer.

No company has grasped that better than Dell Computer, a direct seller of personal
computers. Its famed build-to-order model was initially based on telephone orders
by customers, and on the weekly blizzards of purchase orders it faxed to parts
suppliers. Even before the birth of the public Internet, Dell's supply chain was
efficient, its inventories lean, and its profits lush.

CLONING. Then the Internet happened, and Dell began minting money. Today,
instead of daily fax alerts to warehouses telling everyone what supplies are needed,
Dell sends messages out every two hours over the Net. Dell's suppliers also get an
inside view of the company's inventories and production plans, and they receive
constant feedback on how well they are meeting shipping cri-teria. Now, its speed
in customizing and delivering products is unmatched. Inventory on hand is down to
eight days--vs. Compaq's 26--and revenue growth is about 55%.

The Internet, is helping Dell shatter conventional wisdom about how computers are
best bought and sold. Compaq, HP, and IBM have tried to clone Dell's direct-sales
model. And they've all snatched up similar electronic tools to streamline dealings
with retailers. But the new supply-chain logic demands revolutionary tactics and a
rethinking of every business process, which for now elude Dell's competitors, who
still rely heavily on dealers. The PC prices you will find on IBM's
direct-to-consumer Web pages aren't any lower than what's already available in
retail stores, and they don't match Dell's.

For all the ruckus Net-age wizards like Dell may be causing, the result long-term
likely will be an explosion of brand-new business. Even as some businesses see their
prospects dim, new digital middlemen--call them cybermediaries--are cropping up
to fill opportunities spawned by E-commerce.

NEW WAVE. Experts see a big role for sites that bring together buyers and
sellers and provide value by offering trusted advice, personal service, or other
benefits. This, says Zona's Ryder, is the start of the third wave of Internet
commerce: not just saving money, not just selling existing products online, but
generating new wealth. Says Paul Saffo, director of the Institute for the Future, a
think tank in Menlo Park, Calif.: ''At the end of the day, you end up with more
intermediaries, not fewer.''

These new cybermediaries range from portals such as Yahoo! to Net startups that
are creating unique markets on the Net--such as FastParts Inc., a site where
electronics companies around the world buy and sell surplus parts. ''If the Internet
hadn't come along,'' says FastParts Chairman Gerry Haller, ''this business wouldn't
have worked.''

The business models these upstarts are employing are as diverse as they are
inventive. Some, such as Instill Corp.--which serves as a virtual order desk for
restaurants and food-service operators--streamline an inefficient buying process.
Others are consumer magnets, drawing buyers with useful info or services and
steering them to manufacturers and service providers, in return for a fee or a cut of
transactions. These services include sites such as Auto-By-Tel and Autoweb.com,
credit companies such as Get-Smart.com and E-Loan, and insurance services such as
InsWeb Corp.

Some of the greatest opportunities lie in using the Net to simplify complex and
costly transactions. Realtor.com, a site for home buyers, is streamlining the
harrowing task of purchasing a home. Stuart Wolff, CEO of the startup in Westlake
Village, Calif., figures there are up to a dozen middlemen involved in a typical
home sale, from Realtors to title agents. Realtor.com, which is affiliated with the
National Association of Realtors, directs shoppers to one of its realtors--no
surprise. But it hopes to automate many other aspects of home sales, such as loans
and title searches.

These digital middlemen aim to be the nexus of large numbers of buyers and
sellers. The key dynamic: Once the cybermediary gathers a critical mass of buyers
and sellers, more keep flocking there, because that's where the action is. ''Do you
want to be where there're 800 Beanie Babies or 8,000 Beanie Babies?'' asks Meg
Whitman, CEO of eBay, a Web site that lets individuals auction off products to each
other.

By continuing to gather buying power, digital go-betweens will soon be able to flex
some muscle up the supply chain. Ask Payam Zamani, co-founder and executive
vice-president of Autoweb.com. He believes his site offers such an economical way
to reach car buyers that it will spur consolidation among dealers, and Autoweb will
take on more of the customer relationship. ''The business model is not complete
until we control 100% of the buying process,'' says Zamani. What does the
auto-sales business of the future look like? ''Ultimately, there will be virtual
dealerships. It will be more cost-effective to send cars to homes to test-drive than to
have 300 cars sitting in a lot.''

Naturally, traditional dealers and manufacturers don't relish the idea of these
upstarts gaining all the clout, so they, too, are jockeying for position. Early starters
such as Cisco are already selling $11 million in networking gear a day on the Net,
and Dell is selling $5 million a day in PCs.

Yet most existing businesses must walk a fine line on the Net. They risk upsetting
partnerships with distributors and retailers. Conflict with an existing sales channel
was the biggest impediment to selling online cited by respondents to a recent
BUSINESS WEEK/Harris poll. That's hard to justify when Net commerce is still so
small relative to their overall businesses, and returns far from certain.

And it explains why firms such as Goldman, Sachs & Co. and Merrill Lynch & Co.
are deliberating over how to go online, where discount brokers proliferate. ''On the
Internet, there's no shortage of information, but wisdom is a valued commodity,''
says Randal Langdon, director of interactive-sales technologies for Merrill Lynch,
which is cautiously moving its business--and its 14,000 financial consultants--onto
the Net.

No wonder the Net is keeping a lot of executives and business owners up at night.
Liz Heller, executive vice-president at Capitol Records Inc., for instance, is worried
that unauthorized Net-based music sites could soon take a big bite out of CD sales.
''It's all happening faster than we thought,'' she frets. ''How do you stop a moving
train?''

Make that a speeding bullet.

By Robert D. Hof in San Mateo, Calif., with Gary McWilliams in Houston and
Gabrielle Saveri in San Francisco

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