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To: trenzich who wrote (3696)8/5/1998 2:49:00 PM
From: Mac  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 5743
 
Seeems like the whole market is ignoring the phrase.
Until the courts reach a decision in ACRI's favor........

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To: trenzich who wrote (3696)8/6/1998 12:29:00 AM
From: edsam  Respond to of 5743
 
Stopping at the tollbooth? For what proprietary technology must everyone pay for? I don't think I missed that point. FCC only adopted transmitted rating date over line 21. But the Elam's patent does not ...

1) Own the idea of sending data over line 21.
2) Have a component capable of reading data off line 21.
3) Is only an auxiliary circuit which represent one way of blocking.

This link may help ...
messages.yahoo.com@m2.yahoo.com

TZ, would you like to try the excercise of mapping the Elam components/functions to the 7 simplified steps of broadcasting?



To: trenzich who wrote (3696)8/6/1998 8:41:00 AM
From: edsam  Respond to of 5743
 
FYI on EIA-608 (protocol adopted by FCC and described but not owned by Elam) ...

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To: trenzich who wrote (3696)8/6/1998 1:22:00 PM
From: D.E. Shetland  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 5743
 
I think that Acacia is using very tricky language that is legal, but is being misread on this thread. Look at the statement and see what Acacia is referring to when discussing "the method".

The FCC adopted a technical standard (encompased in EIA-608 and modified in a current release) that does, very clearly, adopt "a method" as part of the technical specifications. In fact, the whole document and it's revisions discuss the method and how it will work (You can get a summary of the technical specs on the FCC website fcc.gov). The "method" Acacia refers to, and that is detailed in the technical specifications, is using the existing closed-captioning circuits as part of the system. It is not Acacia's "method" as stated in the first sentence. Acacia developed one method that describes a way to implement a ratings screening system that works with "the method" selected (using VBI21 and the CC circuit) by the FCC and, specifically, the CEMA Group R.4.3 Advanced TV Group that actually did all the work (and that Tim Collings consulted to throughout the process). The CEMA Group wanted to set a standard and then let developers figure out the best way to implement it and optimize it.

Acacia figured out one way, Sony figured out another and so did PG and TVL. I think Acacia is using some tricky semantics to make it seem as if the FCC specifically mandates their "method". I have spoken to 2 people in the FCC Engineering Office (names and numbers on the web site -FCC.gov) and they say the technical specifications do not infringe on anyone's patent's and are an implementation of the existing closed-caption system (expanded with the XDS data) which, if it's "owned" by anyone, is owned by the National Captioning Institute, a government sponsored group that promotes CC-ing.