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To: Graystone who wrote (50854)8/5/1998 11:37:00 AM
From: Rich_1  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 55532
 
Graystone,
B only said that you were one of a group. He even defined that the group was represented by (**), he never said you were on every thread he listed, he said representatives from that group were bashing on those threads.
Pugs had a great post where he showed s martin and Kugler working the KNIC thread, one played the shill, one was there to fill him in. Nobody is saying you did anything wrong from what I can see, even if you were bashing, it's legal. B even told you there was nothing illegal going on, so what's your problem dude? No one here has a problem with you except for the reason you can get away with behavior we'd be booted for in a heartbeat.

Rich_1



To: Graystone who wrote (50854)8/5/1998 1:08:00 PM
From: Ellen  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 55532
 
Why, yes, I can read. Thank you for your concern. You stated >> PS. You're in <g> << Gee, what an honor...NOT...no thanks.

Now, to the issue at hand. I certainly hope this will put it to rest once and for all. You accused Bmart of lying about your being an advocate of Asensio's. Bmart clarified his original post (the one you took issue with) and did so more than once. Apparently, you had difficulty understanding what he said, because you continued to claim that Bmart was lying, which he wasn't. Please refer to posts below, as they contain the answers. Unless you simply wish to continue the argument just to be arguing (which I will not participate in), this is the end of the matter.

Original Post:

#reply-5389383

To: rob jones (50542 ) (Trial Member)
From: bmart
Sunday, Aug 2 1998 4:06PM ET
Reply # of 50857

Mr. Jones,
I will offer this to you as a prelude to the main points I will express in future posts. We will use Mr. Asensio as a link, as we did in the previous post. Mr. Asensio is a good place to start since he, himself, is a shortseller.

*Asensio 'strong-sell / short sell' recommendations and posters who are strong advocates of Mr. Asensio's picks (these are all legal shorts BTW, no inference is made to suggest differently);

( ** ) = Janice Shell, Graystone, Mr. Metals, Bill Wexler, etc., etc.

Able Telcom
exchange2000.com
Barbara Payne
Auric Goldfinger

BIOVAIL CORPORATION, INTL.
exchange2000.com
tonto

CTSC
exchange2000.com
( ** )

AVNT
exchange2000.com
tonto
Barbara Payne

BIOVAIL CORPORATION, INTL.
exchange2000.com
tonto

CTSC
exchange2000.com
( ** )

Chromatics Color Sciences International, Inc.
exchange2000.com
Barbara Payne
Auric Goldfinger
exchange2000.com

Crystallex International Corporation
Barbara Payne
tonto
( ** )

Ergobilt
exchange2000.com
tonto

Solv-Ex Corporation
exchange2000.com
tonto
Auric Goldfinger
( ** )
+ some individuals who's roles will be ascertained in due time

Zonagen
exchange2000.com
( ** )

***********************************************

A BB stock cannot be shorted legally by small investors. Currently, active groups of individuals appear to be attempting to manipulate BB stock prices down, using S.I. to do so. The question arises as to who's interest this benefits? Being an advocate of Mr. Asensio and shorting interests on larger boards is a valid and legal position to take, but, in the case of BB stocks, which cannot be shorted by small investors, it would seem to begin to define a working relationship between MM's ( who can and do short BB stocks) and certain posters. We used Messrs. Lanza, Brody, Zapara, Mork, Grant, Baker, etc. as examples as with the case of F.I.G. (Financial Internet Group). Mr. Ed Brody who is now affiliated with MDCE was an employee of Alexis (Zapara), he was also a IR guy fielding calls from OVIS shareholders. Mr.Brody was quite clear to us about the role he felt S.I. played in promoting stocks.
The question relevant to RMIL shareholders should be, who , why and how are BB stocks (particularly RMIL) being shorted? and what role does S.I., major brokerages, shortsellers and posters play in the manipulation of BB stocks?
We will continue to examine issues relevant to a RMIL long position and the effects certain individuals have had on holding a long position in RMIL.

Good Day

RBM


Three responses to you which, apparently, you have difficulty understanding:

#reply-5395555

To: Graystone (50582 )
From: bmart
Monday, Aug 3 1998 1:04PM ET
Reply # of 50857

Mr. Graystone,
I would suggest, after a short 'cooling-off' period, you re-read the post in question. I , again, never stated you were an advocate of Mr. Asensio . What I stated, quite clearly, was that certain posters, including yourself, are bashing stocks that happen to be Mr. Asensio's strong-sell/ short-sell recommendations. Here is Mr. Asensio's web-page, you can perform the diligence yourself. The S.I. logs will back my post.

206.41.2.15

For the record, the stocks on the list are all legal shorts and , again, I have no idea what position you hold in any interest.

Good Day

RBM


The next response:

#reply-5395721

To: Graystone (50585 )
From: bmart
Monday, Aug 3 1998 1:20PM ET
Reply # of 50857

Mr. Graystone,
I must say I am perplexed. I think you may have issue with this;

(**) = the 'group' consisting of yourself, Ms. Janice S., Mr Wexler, etc.
If a member of this particular group was on the thread that related to Mr. Asesnsio's strong-sell/shortsell recommendation, it was designated with '(**)'.
Again, of course, I have no idea whatsoever of what position, if any, you hold in any of these interests. Each Asensio recommendation listed was legal to short, again, my concern is the presence of certain individuals on threads of BB stocks which are illegal for small investors to short.
I am happy to have had the chance to clarify for you again.

Good Day

RBM


And yet a third response:

#reply-5398079

To: Graystone (50613 )
From: bmart
Monday, Aug 3 1998 5:00PM ET
Reply # of 50857

Mr. Graystone ,
I was quite clear in my subsequent posts after your objections,
I have no way of knowing what kind of positions you hold in any stock. and, for the record, Mr. Asensio's strong-sell/short-sell picks are all stocks on boards legal to short.
As I defined earlier, my analysis had you as part of a group including the others I previously mentioned. This was not meant to suggest that every member of the group was bashing an Asensio shortsell recommendation together.
Therefore, I am surprised at your reaction. The S.I. logs speak for themselves.

Good Day

RBM