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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (61896)	8/5/1998 5:31:00 PM
From: gnuman	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Mary, IBM and Sun announce JavaOS today. (dejavu) ;-) Read all about it at ibm.com

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (61896)	8/5/1998 6:37:00 PM
From: rudedog	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Mary - The only one of these on the list that I know anything about is the CSX one - they intended to develop for thin clients but that part of the project collapsed completely (as did a similar effort at FDX, I notice FDX is off of the list now). Note the careful spin on client architecture in the CSX presentation. FDX cancelled the thin client development after significant expense and announced in May that they may rework the whole systems concept, possibly without Java. CSX has not publicly abandoned Java yet but did move to a more traditional client model (windows clients). Incidentally they are working most closely with MSFT on the client pieces, with SUNW on the middleware, and are getting caught in the crossfire between SUNW and MSFT. not a pretty sight. Also, from a post on another thread - Marc Andreesen's Comments on Java: techweb.com "My joke is that a Java Navigator will have a lot of good attributes: It's slower. It will crash more and have fewer features. So you can do fewer things. It will simplify your life," he said, laughing. "I've always believed Netscape's original mistake was someone actually has to do the work. It's technically possible, but no one is doing the work," he said. "The work is to make the Java runtime stable and fast. There's an opportunity to do that. Right now, Microsoft is doing it. And there you are."