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To: NJR who wrote (796)8/6/1998 12:09:00 AM
From: Sir Auric Goldfinger  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3015
 
Me thinks thou speaketh before thou thinketh....(an annotated response to NJR)

"I enjoy a good intellectual argument every now and then, but some of your fellow shorts obviously have other intentions. I am sure many of you are professional traders (no s.. Sherlock).

From the view of the common man, your collective rants appear to be focused on driving the price down, not simply debating the merits of the stock (there are none).

From a review of these posts over the last couple of months, the most vapid comments have come from the short side, not the long. GMAB Goldfinger, you seem to be the one running the scam. (Actually not, I did not start the short side of this debate, but I did get very vapid when the same old long bs of ignoring the evidence and the hoping wishing and preying kept avoiding the hard questions)

What record? For all we know, you have no investment here one way or the other).

(Actually nothing said anywhere on SI is provable, so you'll just have to look at the charts. However when you assume there are professionals on this thread, you can be assured that we're not hear to argue with fools, but rather to get our view otu there)

Where is the evidence of your assertion that the runup was unfounded? I have none that it was for real, but then I am not claiming.(No you are attempting to act with authority which only works when people have coem to trust your wisdom. I've not followed your threads. However, you seem to have all of the ingrediants of a New age investor who thinks that financials do not matter)

I do happen to think that management knows what they are doing here, and am certainly willing to see what unfolds. (They are crims in no uncertain terms and you must be blind to believe their crap at this point-I mean really halditng their own stock and no comment?)

Any of you shorts at the annual meeting last week? I was. Maybe you don't need the facts in order to promote your campaign of FUD. I heard
Tim Peters answer the questions put to him without evasion (think he had any coasing? The guy is nothing if not a good promoter).

I spoke with others members of management. I noted the interest on the part of other shareholders. I think these guys are on to something and I don't see evidence here that anyone. you too, Techguy. understands what they are trying to do.

I like the emerging industry and I think the company has savvy management (savy-you clearly don't know when your pocket book has been lifted do ya?).

I'm used to investing on a hunch (it would apear so. However, the confusion of brains in a bull market is about to disappear). The runup into the 30's did not surprise me. In the mean time, I will
have fun debunking (hardly-go back to Pluvia posts and think before you put this crap out. Furthermore, learn how to read a Q,K and a proxy,wouldja?)

the witty repartee of you shorts, who failing to be able to grasp the
essence of this opportunity, seem only able to regurgitate each other's insipid comments. (Really? With margin, we're up 100% since the bogus halt went down. Stock is certainly drifting in our favor)"

All anotations courtesy of Auric Goldfinger.All rights reserved.



To: NJR who wrote (796)8/6/1998 12:51:00 AM
From: Pluvia  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 3015
 
NJR,

Sorry, but I saw these brilliant comments and just couldn't let em go by without comment...

First this....

<<<I enjoy a good intellectual argument every now and then, but some of your fellow shorts obviously have other intentions.>>>

And then this...

<<<I'm used to investing on a hunch.>>>

ROFL!!!!!! Come on man - ya kill'n me !!! Investing based on a rumor you call that intelligent? BAAAAAA HA HA HA HHHHAAA!!!!!!!!!!
How can you possibly argue intelligently on the long side of this company - look at their financials and their track record? You obviously know nothing about this company - do you?

Be prepared for some SPECIFIC discussion about this company... You will get it in the next few days. Now run along and do some homework so you can do your best to bring an intelligent argument to the table - instead of "I bought based on a rumor". Maybe that works from out there where you come from, but it just don't cut it on SI, and you will never even make it to the table in the House of Pluvia bud.

Round here padna, you can't just say you have an intelligent argument and get away with it - you have to back it up with facts.

Welcome to the House of Pluvia - "where reality rains"

Cheers Steve



To: NJR who wrote (796)8/6/1998 2:42:00 AM
From: Sir Auric Goldfinger  Respond to of 3015
 
'Effing Mentl Case: "I'm used to investing on a hunch" Go play Powerball, it'll last longer!



To: NJR who wrote (796)8/6/1998 6:14:00 AM
From: Mr. Pink  Respond to of 3015
 
Dear NJR,

Mr. Pink was not at the annual meeting (although he sent one of His operatives, who dutifully reported that it was a joke). He did listen to the conference call in which management backed off from any hint of a buy-out, no doubt on the recommendation of counsel.

It is difficult to justify the valuation of a company with a high market valuation, lots of debt, significantly negative EBITDA, a business plan that shows that they will be out of money within 9 months, no customers, "non-monetary revenues"--what a joke--, whose only value is litigation rights to patents protecting a technology that has been leapfrogged long ago.

The stock is worth zero. The bonds are worth the discounted value of the excrowed interest payments or about 22 cents on the dollar.

Mr. Pink shall sit back and wait for the inevitable fall and views every dollar He is short as a dollar in the bank.

Mr. Pink



To: NJR who wrote (796)8/6/1998 3:08:00 PM
From: mudweasel  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 3015
 
njr- me thinks thou hast been well smitten by the rest of this board, so i'm not really going to bother exposing your response to any more logic save 2 points:
1. you seem to imply that runups are the normal state of things. prove the runup was unwarranted? show me why it happened! are you joking. there was NO NEWS, NOTHING! perhaps where you live, investors are entitled to 80% upmoves as a matter of course, but where i grew up, something has to cause that. asking me to prove it was unwarranted is sort of laughable, don't you think? all i know is a bunch of disreputable brokers started talking, and voila stock gaps up. no substantiation of there claims has ever surfaced. that's about enough there.
2. work on you phoney baloney fake olde english. it's thinkest not thinketh. here is proper usage: me thinks thou dost invest too lazily and ought put thine hard earned cash into beanie babies. there is less of a chance that those go to zero and if they do, at least your kids might like them.
fare thee well...