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To: Scumbria who wrote (28745)8/7/1998 6:41:00 PM
From: robert scheb  Respond to of 33344
 
What's wrong with SI and their quote system?? NSM closed up 1/2 on the Quicken board.

Something wierd going on....

Scheb



To: Scumbria who wrote (28745)8/10/1998 3:19:00 PM
From: Joe NYC  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 33344
 
Scumbria,

Staying way off topic....

You could probably say in retrospect that some good came from Joe McCarthy's investigation, because every once in a while we need a wake up call to protect our freedom. We should all stand up and be counted out when our freedom is being threatened.

It all depends on your which version of history you believe. You apparently believe the politically correct version. I believe the real one:

There were 2 forces at war from 50s to late 80s. One force was the theory of collectivism, conformity, state control of every aspect of your life. That was the Soviet Union. There was an opposing force, which stands for liberty, individualism, freedom os speech, conscience and United State was the only country able to protect the the countries sharing these values from outirght Soviet invasion, or internal subversion.

But while this war was going on, the Communist Party USA was actively working for the enemy. The leader of American Communists was Joe Stalin. The members were not your typical "exploited workers" as Marx envisioned it, but the New York and Hollywood "inteligentsia". They were journalists, teachers, writers, college professors, actors, directors, lawyers. Instead of infiltrating the factories, they just tried to steer the institutions were they were already employed: Newspapers, magazines, TV, Radio, Hollywood, the government, research institutions.

Joe McCarthy exposed them for what they were in his clumsy way. Just because the 100th and 101st person he accused may not have been communists, it doesn't mean that the first 99 were not.

It is a tough balancing act between welcoming political dissent, opposing opinions during wartime (Cold War in this case), when this dissent grows into an organized force helping the enemy, whose goal is to defeat the government and constitution that guarantees these freedoms.

Joe McCarthy was not the right person to preside over this balancing act. But what he did had to happen.

The end result is that the CP USA pretty much fell apart. The naive idealists found marijuana and other things to be idealistic about, and the remaining core ended up basically useless even for Soviet Union.

Like McCarthy's, Starr's investigation is all about politics. Not about truth or freedom.

On the contrary. They were both about search for truth. It is Clinton and the Communists in McCarthy era who were doing their best to conceal truth.

Joe