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To: Paul Engel who wrote (35632)	8/7/1998 11:51:00 PM
From: Buckwheat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576329

RE: [P, where you aware that HP's K6-2-333 uses a 66Mhz bus. Wow, now thats what I call a poor performing chip.] Wow! Good thing it has L2 Cache and 3DNow instructions, otherwise it would be as poor a performer as the Celeron! [Not one tier 1 or tier 2 OEM has a higher than 66Mhz socket 7 MB in their systems, know why?] Yes, the same reason they don't stick Celerons in BX boards> They're not rated at 100 mhz FSB speed. They're rated at either 66 or 95 mhz FSB (unlike the Celeron that is only rated at 66 mhz FSB. So why add the additional few dollars cost for a Super 7 board with 5 ns. L2 cache when a low voltage socket 7 board is all that is required? Regards Buckwheat

To: Paul Engel who wrote (35632)	8/8/1998 2:17:00 AM
From: Kevin K. Spurway	Respond to of 1576329

Paul, you posted it. Here it is again: ========================================== To: John Petzinger (35573 ) From: StockMan Friday, Aug 7 1998 1:47AM ET Reply # of 35631 P, where you aware that HP's K6-2-333 uses a 66Mhz bus. Wow, now thats what I call a poor performing chip. Not one tier 1 or tier 2 OEM has a higher than 66Mhz socket 7 MB in their systems, know why? ========================================== This post doesn't raise any questions about 333 MHz chips. What is there to discuss about the 333 MHz chip? The QUESTION that Stocky's post asks is "Not one tier 1 or tier 2 OEM has a higher than 66Mhz socket 7 MB in their systems, know why?" THIS QUESTION IS WHAT EVERYONE WAS RESPONDING TO! The first sentence in Stocky's post contained a FACT. No point in arguing with a fact, is there, so why respond to it? As you can see, this admitted fact couldn't be the topic of discussion. The second sentence contained an opinion based on that fact. This opinion is clearly worthless--after all, what PII or Celeron system runs at 333 MHz with a bus speed over 66 MHz? Thus, the opinion merely reveals the ignorance of its author. The third sentence contains an assertion WHICH PROVED TO BE FALSE. This assertion produced numerous responses regarding the alleged stability of the >66 MHz Super 7 FSB, until the discussion ENDED when it was shown that a Tier 1 does indeed offer a Socket 7 system with a >66 MHz FSB. END of discussion. Kevin